"Our country is full"

Woko Haram said:
The process of recognition requires screening, which usually requires detainment as well.
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You didn't say anything about detainment. I didn't either. I was correcting your inaccurate statement that the US doesn't have to let in people who are seeking asylum.
 
Nordberg said:
Immigrants create businesses at a ta faster rate than citizens. They pay taxes and do work you people deign. It is just hate that prevents from America from realizing its potential.
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Citizens like you. Who do nothing but take. Lazy fuckers. I have a great idea, how about for every hard working motivated immigrant we let in, one of you useless "citizens" get the the fuck out?
 
Jack said:
ButtBoy. Have you ever driven on the Freeway? Have you ever tried to find a Parking Spot at the Beach? Taken your kids to DisneyLand?
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Yes, I have. Saying DisneyLand is crowded is like saying water is wet. It's designed to be crowded.
 
Jack said:
So ... do YOU like that? Or maybe prefer it to be LESS CROWDED?
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You must realize, I hope, that your example of a crowded DisneyLand as evidence that the country is too crowded is utterly asinine.
 
Diesel said:
You didn't say anything about detainment. I didn't either. I was correcting your inaccurate statement that the US doesn't have to let in people who are seeking asylum.
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I guess I should have phrased it better then. My point was that we don't have to let in everyone who seeks asylum. As you said, we're supposed to accept valid claims, but there seems to be a push to broaden what qualifies as a valid claim.
 
Diesel said:
You must realize, I hope, that your example of a crowded DisneyLand as evidence that the country is too crowded is utterly asinine.
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hahahahaha ...
It's the PERFECT example.

Who benefits by MORE PEOPLE?

a. The Capitalists.
b. The Worker Drones.

Why do you think American Capitalists ran over each other to gain access to the Chinese Masses? 1.5 Billion Consumers. Think of ALL THE MONEY!
Oooooo ... what if America had 1.5 Billion People? Think of the MONEY. Think of ALL THE MONEY!

Naturally, the Capitalists will be living on their 10 acre Estates, ... while YOU will be living in the 'Rabbit Hutches'.
 
Nordberg said:
Immigrants create businesses at a ta faster rate than citizens. They pay taxes and do work you people deign. It is just hate that prevents from America from realizing its potential.
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I would say it's more fear than hate, but fear feeds hate. Trump and the far right media are master manipulators of creating fear and then converting it to hate.
 
Jack said:
Yes. Why do people MOVE from crowded Cities to the Suburbs? Why do people like Open Spaces? Why do people NOT like living like Rats on top of each other?
Gee. Really tough questions.
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According to the 2010 census, more than 80% of Americans live in urban areas. Presumably most of them made that choice. You don't have a point.
 
Diesel said:
According to the 2010 census, more than 80% of Americans live in urban areas. Presumably most of them made that choice. You don't have a point.
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Hah!
It's a simple point.
Who benefits by 'MORE PEOPLE'?

If it helps, let's use the DisneyLand example. 'WHO' benefits by a crowded Amusement Park?
a. The Owner and the Shareholders?
b. The Consumers?
 
Woko Haram said:
So, I have to ask a few questions on this one. How broadly are we defining a valid asylum claim? A lot of the world is in a pretty bad state, at least compared to the First World. One could argue that the majorities of the populations in much of Central America and Africa could reasonably make a claim in favor of relocating here for a better life. If we accepted all those who would like to come here who did not carry a highly contagious disease and did not have a criminal record, you'd be looking at dozens of millions of people. What would you consider a reasonable limit to entry? Is there a valid numerical limit in your opinion, or is the limit based on something else?



It sounds like this is a far cry from the left that used to shun "legislating morality." If you're claiming that spending for the poor is a moral duty, why not apply morality to other facets of policy? Is it moral to have policies that encourage having children out of wedlock? Is it moral to have a society that is blasé about sleeping around?



So you think Jesus wasted his time with helping those who had no desire to repent? It's one thing to forgive those who seek forgiveness, but you can't exactly forgive those who kill and maim with no remorse.



What is "not happening" is the concentration camp hyperbole your side rambles about.



...because it's more than "1%". Granted, because of the nature of the industry, it's hard to gauge what the actual rate is, like any other illegal activity. We can only go by the cases we catch.

It's no different from the gap between the recorded rape rate and the actual rape rate. We know the former but can only infer the latter.
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The definition of an asylum seeker is not ambiguous.

The term "refugee" means (A) any person who is outside any country of such person's
nationality or, in the case of a person having no nationality, is outside any country in which such
person last habitually resided, and who is unable or unwilling to return to, and is unable or unwilling
to avail himself or herself of the protection of, that country because of persecution or a well-founded
fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group,
or political opinion, or (B) in such special circumstances as the President after appropriate
consultation (as defined in section 1157(e) of this title) may specify, any person who is within the
country of such person's nationality or, in the case of a person
having no nationality, within the country in which such person is habitually residing, and who is
persecuted or who has a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality,
membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.

https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets...mmigration and Nationality Act 101(a)(42).pdf
 
Woko Haram said:
I guess I should have phrased it better then. My point was that we don't have to let in everyone who seeks asylum. As you said, we're supposed to accept valid claims, but there seems to be a push to broaden what qualifies as a valid claim.
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Who has pushed to broaden 8 USC 1101(a) INA 101(a) (42)?
 
Jack said:
Good. Go somewhere else and do that. But ...
DON"T tell them to OVERBREED and that when it gets TOO CROWDED in their Country, they can always come HERE.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Asses like you would rather see them starve, or be killed, rather then guarantee them a safe life.
 
Jack said:
hahahahaha ...
It's the PERFECT example.

Who benefits by MORE PEOPLE?

a. The Capitalists.
b. The Worker Drones.

Why do you think American Capitalists ran over each other to gain access to the Chinese Masses? 1.5 Billion Consumers. Think of ALL THE MONEY!
Oooooo ... what if America had 1.5 Billion People? Think of the MONEY. Think of ALL THE MONEY!

Naturally, the Capitalists will be living on their 10 acre Estates, ... while YOU will be living in the 'Rabbit Hutches'.
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I would discourage you from misusing the pronoun "you" when it doesn't apply and you have no idea what you're talking about.

American goods and services are sold globally. The domestic population does not have to explode to maintain a consumer base. Furthermore, the US is the 174th most densely populated country on the planet (out of 232). You're a mess.
 
Jack said:
Hah!
It's a simple point.
Who benefits by 'MORE PEOPLE'?

If it helps, let's use the DisneyLand example. 'WHO' benefits by a crowded Amusement Park?
a. The Owner and the Shareholders?
b. The Consumers?
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Businesses have an interest in maximizing profits. That has nothing to do with your original, clueless assertion that the US is too crowded.
 
Old Trapper said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Asses like you would rather see them starve, or be killed, rather then guarantee them a safe life.
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Yes. That's true. I see America as a 'Gated Community'. I like the Open Space. I like the Fresh Air. I like the Clean Water. The 'Capitalists' can always afford this, the 'Average Worker Drone' will NOT be able to afford this. They and their families will be condemned to overcrowded shitholes like Calcutta, forever denied what their Parents and Grandparents took for granted.

YOU are a Traitor to the Republic, conned by the Elite Class, wrapping yourself in an imaginary blanket of Righteousness.
You are like the Bishop that keeps telling women to have MORE babies, even though there is not enough Food to feed them.
 
Woko Haram said:
So, I have to ask a few questions on this one. How broadly are we defining a valid asylum claim?
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American law, if you bothered to read it, already defines such.

It sounds like this is a far cry from the left that used to shun "legislating morality." If you're claiming that spending for the poor is a moral duty, why not apply morality to other facets of policy? Is it moral to have policies that encourage having children out of wedlock? Is it moral to have a society that is blasé about sleeping around?
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I do.

So you think Jesus wasted his time with helping those who had no desire to repent? It's one thing to forgive those who seek forgiveness, but you can't exactly forgive those who kill and maim with no remorse.
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As i have often said, trump cannot claim to be a christian since he does not believe in repentance, or has done anything that requires repentance..

When did Christ help those who have not repented?

What is "not happening" is the concentration camp hyperbole your side rambles about.
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I believe I said "similar to", and aside from the ovens, and showers, they are quite similar.

...because it's more than "1%". Granted, because of the nature of the industry, it's hard to gauge what the actual rate is, like any other illegal activity. We can only go by the cases we catch.

It's no different from the gap between the recorded rape rate and the actual rape rate. We know the former but can only infer the latter.
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Thanks for admitting you have no clue.
 
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