Another billion-dollar company bailing on California

California GDP:

Units:

Frequency:

Release: Gross Domestic Product by State

Source: U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis


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Despite the health of the California economy compared to most states, if you want to improve the focus needs to be on the debtor States who contribute less money to the Fed's than they put in. End that welfare, going mostly to Red States, so that all the money States send out comes back as neutral and California can address all its other issues.

 

California GDP:

Units:

Frequency:

Release: Gross Domestic Product by State

Source: U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis


ap6c6i.jpg


Despite the health of the California economy compared to most states, if you want to improve the focus needs to be on the debtor States who contribute less money to the Fed's than they put in. End that welfare, going mostly to Red States, so that all the money States send out comes back as neutral and California can address all its other issues.
GDP is not economy, Kewpie. More and more cities in the SDTC are bankrupt, Kewpie. The SDTC itself is headed in the same direction.

At least 18% (the number is probably higher now...using latest published figures) of households in the SDTC are on welfare and/or food stamps.
The SOTNY is at 16%, another Democrat run territory.
Oregon is at 17%. Democrat run.
Washington is at 13%. Democrat run.
Nevada is at 14%. Democrat run.
New Mexico is at 20%. Democrat run.

Utah is at 6%.
Wyoming is at 6%.
Kansas is at 8%.
Nebraska and South Dakota is at 9%.
North Dakota is at 7%.
Louisana is at 17%, Democrat run.
West Virginia is at 18%. Democrat run.


Now let's talk about the fraud, centered in Democrat run areas: Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Seattle, Portland, New York, New Orleans.

Or we could talk about the continued rioting, looting, insurrection, organized crime, harboring of illegal aliens, and insurrection by Democrats.
 
They're leaving too. The loss is slower but happening. Ones that have left include:

Oracle
Tesla
Hewitt-Packard
Palantir Technologies
McAfee
Dropbox
X (Twitter)


They are bailing. All the silicon in Silicon Valley left decades ago. There is no more chip manufacturing in California--hell, there's hardly any manufacturing whatsoever there now--because of the state's onerous environmental regulations make it impossible to make things there. I read stories about companies and how that state treats them and see the state is actively trying to destroy businesses there.

These are two that I recall over the years for the utter stupidity of the state of California:

Progresso Soup had a plant outside Sacramento. It had been there since the 1930's and employed hundreds of people. The state came in and told them they could no longer run their cogeneration electrical plant. The company burned all the food waste products from their manufacturing process to generate electricity to run the plant. Without being able to do that, their costs went up both because now they had to buy the electricity and pay to have the waste hauled to a landfill. That meant they were now operating at a loss. They closed the plant, laid off the entire workforce and moved the operation to a plant in the mid-west.

A company manufacturing fiberglass and aluminum ladders was visited by state regulators who told the company they would have to make millions of dollars in changes to their processes to meet environmental regulations the state was imposing. The owners called all their employees to a meeting on the spot--right then and there--with the state regulators present.

The owners announced that the plant was immediately closed and everybody was laid off. They said the plant was moving to Arizona, and they could only afford to pay for a few key people to make the move. If all the other workers wanted their jobs with the company, they could move to Arizona and the company would gladly keep them on at the new plant.

They had to call the police to come and protect and escort the regulators off the property because the workers were threatening to kill them.

The company is now in Goodyear AZ making the same ladders and selling them in California still.

The US Navy had me make hundreds of shore power cable cradles, this aluminum 'super pallet' to keep tiny amounts of rubber out of waterways in California because of state regulations. I was funded $500,000 to do that. Totally unnecessary.

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Those two rectangular boxes are what I was making. They are all aluminum and not cheap.
Tesla moved to Austin years ago and McAffee is either dead or in prison. He married one of his hookers. He was a strange bird.

Palantir - the CEO Karp? Have you ever seen him speak? He's a drug addict and a nut. - that guy is a moonbat, he can move as far the fuck away as he wants.
 
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Not sure “right next door” qualifies one as an experienced native, nor would I say Michigan resembles Mississippi today.

California has lost an estimated two to three thousand people since 2020, which I wouldn’t say was significant in a State with close to 39 million. Most of this occurred during the pandemic, and figures are beginning to balance out recently. Has it lost major companies, yes, but is that going to make California resemble Detroit, doubtful

And can’t say I recall any Silicon Valley in the NE, and the three States you cited are doing just fine
California is replacing skilled, blue- and white-collar workers with unskilled immigrants, mostly illegal, for decades now. They have the largest homeless population in the country. Basically, California is slowly becoming a non-productive socialist-welfare state with a rapidly dwindling tax base to support it.




As the tax base shrinks, California's Leftist Democrats are casting around for who they can tax more to make up for it. Their latest is a billionaire "wealth tax" that is seeing billionaires fleeing the state to avoid it.
 
California is replacing skilled, blue- and white-collar workers with unskilled immigrants, mostly illegal, for decades now. They have the largest homeless population in the country. Basically, California is slowly becoming a non-productive socialist-welfare state with a rapidly dwindling tax base to support it.




As the tax base shrinks, California's Leftist Democrats are casting around for who they can tax more to make up for it. Their latest is a billionaire "wealth tax" that is seeing billionaires fleeing the state to avoid it.
As I said, they’ll be alright, only ones seemingly over concerned with are MAGAs, and they have the largest homeless population because they have the largest population

And the thing that cracks one up on demagoguing the supposed “billionaire” tax is that billionaires don’t pay the tax the critics claim, Trump showed us tax is easily to avoid if you have an army of attorneys and accountants. I have been hearing the same regarding New York for decades and personally I can attest the State and NYC is doing fine
 
A normal American would be grateful to California for being such a powerhouse of creating billion dollar companies.

The US Navy had me make hundreds of shore power cable cradles, this aluminum 'super pallet' to keep tiny amounts of rubber out of waterways in California because of state regulations. I was funded $500,000 to do that. Totally unnecessary.

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Those two rectangular boxes are what I was making. They are all aluminum and not cheap.
Wow, a seemingly good point made based on Gardner's personal expertise... But then I got to thinking about it. The Constitution's Supremacy Claus means that the US Navy can not be regulated by California regulations. It is only under federal regulations.

Which got me exploring further. The picture was taken in Mayport, Florida, back in 2018 (link below). Why would US Navy ships in Florida be following California regulations?

The purpose of the power cable crates is not to protect the environment. They have been around for over a century, and they are meant to keep from snagging or wearing the insulation. If the insulation forms bear spots, it will cause electrocution. People will die. That is true in California, but also in Texas, and Florida.

Louisana is at 17%, Democrat run.
West Virginia is at 18%. Democrat run.
Louisiana(Night misspelled it), and West Virginia are both completely Republican run. Their governors, and both legislative houses are Republican controlled. In West Virginia, Republicans control over 90% of both houses.

I usually do not comment on misspellings, but Night is claiming to have copied facts from an authoritative source. We have to question whether that authoritative source is that authoritative, or even exists, when they get every possible fact wrong, including the spelling.
 
Why do you think all the tech bros prefer to stay there?

KB Homes is a horrible company, by the way - good riddance!

KB Homes has faced a number of controversies over the years, though the nature of them tends to be more about customer complaints, construction quality, warranty disputes, and market/business issues rather than a single major scandal.

Here are the main areas that come up:

1) Home quality and workmanship complaints
A recurring issue involves homeowners reporting problems with newly built homes, such as:

  • roof leaks
  • plumbing and HVAC issues
  • water intrusion from showers or bathrooms
  • electrical concerns
  • poor finishing / cosmetic defects
  • warranty disputes over what is covered
The Better Business Bureau currently shows a substantial number of complaints, with 265 complaints over the last 3 years and 47 in the last 12 months. Many involve repair delays or disagreement over whether damage is a builder defect versus homeowner maintenance.

2) Customer service / closing delays
Some buyers have complained about:

  • delayed closing dates
  • financing issues through KB Home’s lending arm
  • deposit refund disputes
  • poor communication during the purchase process
These appear frequently in BBB filings, especially around new construction timelines and mortgage approvals.

3) Broader market criticism (not misconduct)
In 2025, KB Home also drew attention because demand softened and the company lowered its outlook. This was tied largely to housing affordability concerns and buyer hesitation, not wrongdoing, but it did generate negative press and stock declines.

4) Recent headquarters move controversy
Most recently, KB Home announced it is moving its headquarters from California to Arizona. That has sparked some criticism in California business and political circles, with some framing it as another company leaving the state over cost and regulatory concerns.

So, in short:
The main “controversy” around KB Home is persistent homeowner complaints about build quality and warranty service, rather than a high-profile corporate scandal.

That's exactly why they're moving. They can't get quality help.
 
A normal American would be grateful to California for being such a powerhouse of creating billion dollar companies.


Wow, a seemingly good point made based on Gardner's personal expertise... But then I got to thinking about it. The Constitution's Supremacy Claus means that the US Navy can not be regulated by California regulations. It is only under federal regulations.

The USN still complies with California EPA laws. That is a fact.
Which got me exploring further. The picture was taken in Mayport, Florida, back in 2018 (link below). Why would US Navy ships in Florida be following California regulations?

The picture was illustrative. It was the only one I could find of those cradles. The engineer at Pt. Loma CA that assigned the job order and funding told me what I repeated here.
The purpose of the power cable crates is not to protect the environment. They have been around for over a century, and they are meant to keep from snagging or wearing the insulation. If the insulation forms bear spots, it will cause electrocution. People will die. That is true in California, but also in Texas, and Florida.

I repeated what I was told by the engineer doing the project. Most of the ones I built weren't the 16 x 4 foot version seen in the photo but a 13 x 5 foot version with a raised rail height adding one foot.
 
That's exactly why they're moving. They can't get quality help.
My brother is in the Bay area right now on business helping create a competitor to Elon's Starlink. So much intelligence and creativity is concentrated in that state.

CA's not going to miss KB Homes. It's no wonder trump voters pick on CA. They're stupid and can't grasp how much product comes out of the state that equals the world's 5th largest economy.
 
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