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Yeah, that has a ring to it.I prefer Make America Weird Again.
Yeah, that has a ring to it.
Can you spell Tecumseh?Let's pretend they wouldn't have killed them if they weren't.
Michaeltardalo.
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Matt Dillon
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I could take a motherfucking sledgehammer to a Tecumseh mower I used to have that gave me like.. blood blisters on my thumb n stuff.
Yeah, you had to prime the carb and crank it and maybe it would go, or not.
A higher percentage of NOT, that hunk of junk!
Made me my 1st outside money though.
Best English written by any goat fucking rag head I've ever heard of living in their own country.
FYI! Tecumseh didn't make lawn mowers !
Matt Dillon
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Bullshit.
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Bad day at the office, Damocletus?
Columbus is overrated.
Christopher Columbus' Legacy
Explore the intricate history of America’s discovery, Christopher Columbus's 1492 voyage, pre-Columbian explorers, and the impact of exploration on indigenous peoples.
www.1421foundation.org
To add to the controversy, Columbus's navigational expertise, although commendable, was heavily influenced by earlier maritime exploration and knowledge. Notably, Columbus openly referenced a world map by his influential mentor, Paolo dal Pozzo Toscanelli, during his voyages. Paulo Toscanelli was famous for two 1474 letters to Christopher Columbus and Canon Martins Fernan Martinez de Roriz, King Alfonso of Portugal’s confessor at the Court in Lisbon, in which he advised them about reaching the Indies, suggesting a map for the journey. In these letters, Toscanelli told them that the earth was a sphere and that China could be reached by sailing west from Spain. Toscanelli wrote that Pope Eugenius IV received an ambassador from China and that he, Toscanelli, obtained this information from him and from “men of great learning” who came to Florence in the time of Eugenius IV. Yet in 1474, when Toscanelli wrote these letters, Europeans had not reached southern Africa and it was another eighteen years before Columbus set sail for the Americas.
Therefore, the question of who really discovered America is complex, reflecting numerous unexplained early voyages to America and ongoing controversies about who explored America first. Columbus's achievements built upon pre-existing maritime knowledge and earlier European explorers' experiences, thus illustrating the collective nature of the Age of Exploration.
Although many were killed by the Euros, and some intentionally infected, 90% of Native American deaths were from contact with nasty diseases imported from Europe...which, in turn, had imported them from Africa or the Far East.
The Black Death killed as many Euros as Euro diseases killed Native Americans;
Black Death
The Black Death was a plague pandemic that devastated medieval Europe from 1347 to 1352. The Black Death killed an estimated 25-30 million people. The disease originated in central Asia and was taken...
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The Story Of... Smallpox – and other Deadly Eurasian Germs
Much of the credit for European military success in the New World can be handed to the superiority of their weapons, their literary heritage, even the fact they had unique load-bearing mammals, like horses. These factors combined, gave the conquistadors a massive advantage over the sophisticated civilisations of the Aztec and Inca empires.
But weapons alone can't account for the breathtaking speed with which the indigenous population of the New World were completely wiped out.
Within just a few generations, the continents of the Americas were virtually emptied of their native inhabitants – some academics estimate that approximately 20 million people may have died in the years following the European invasion – up to 95% of the population of the Americas....
...When the Europeans arrived, carrying germs which thrived in dense, semi-urban populations, the indigenous people of the Americas were effectively doomed. They had never experienced smallpox, measles or flu before, and the viruses tore through the continent, killing an estimated 90% of Native Americans.
Smallpox is believed to have arrived in the Americas in 1520 on a Spanish ship sailing from Cuba, carried by an infected African slave. As soon as the party landed in Mexico, the infection began its deadly voyage through the continent. Even before the arrival of Pizarro, smallpox had already devastated the Inca Empire, killing the Emperor Huayna Capac and unleashing a bitter civil war that distracted and weakened his successor, Atahuallpa.
In the era of global conquest which followed, European colonizers were assisted around the world by the germs which they carried. A 1713 smallpox epidemic in the Cape of Good Hope decimated the South African Khoi San people, rendering them incapable of resisting the process of colonization. European germs also wreaked devastation on the aboriginal communities of Australia and New Zealand.
More victims of colonization were killed by Eurasian germs, than by either the gun or the sword, making germs the deadliest agent of conquest.
Wow. That explains why all the MAGA morons and other enemies of the Constitution don't know shit about history.
Slavery and torture were the Spaniards' gig, along with genocide. That's not to say the new world was a garden of Eden. It was populated by humans with all the flaws and virtues we have.
The Brits were big on indentured servitude...especially for "lesser races" like the Irish and the Scots. Agreed the New World wasn't any different when it came to assholes-in-charge. They had wars, slaves and torture. Humans being humans.
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And I'm the one that jaded you.
Damo couldn't explain what slavery and torture he was talking about among Native Americans. I know there were some tribal conflicts but slavery and torture weren't part of it. He then took exception when I said Columbus discovered the West Indies and might not have landed in America. He said I need to stop partaking in politically biased sources. I guess I'll have to tell those textbook writers and internet historians that they aren't white-washing enough of American history.
Tecumseh March 1768- October 1813!Bullshit.
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Garden of Eden ,Genesis 3:22:24 Holy Toledo
S. C. Gwynne's book "Empire of the Summer Moon" told how Native American tribes were vicious, torturous and slavers. There was no such thing as "the noble savage". People are people. LOL
Slavery among Native Americans in the United States - Wikipedia
...Many Native-American tribes practiced some form of slavery before the European introduction of African slavery into North America.[2][3]
The Haida and Tlingit peoples who lived along the southeastern Alaskan coast were traditionally known as fierce warriors and slave-traders, raiding as far as California. Slavery was hereditary after slaves were taken as prisoners of war. Among some Pacific Northwest tribes, about a quarter of the population were slaves.[5][6] Other slave-owning tribes of North America were, for example, Comanche[7] of Texas, Creek of Georgia, the fishing societies, such as the Yurok, that lived along the coast from what is now Alaska to California; the Pawnee, and Klamath.[8]
Torture among Native Americans | Religion and Philosophy | Research Starters | EBSCO Research
<p>Torture among Native Americans has historical roots in the practices of various indigenous tribes, where it was often directed towards enemies, captives, and those who violated tribal norms. While some tribes, like the Pueblo Indians, reportedly engaged in little to no torture, others...
...Torture took place in several varieties. Often the captors tied enemies to a stake or other framework and burned them with bonfires, firebrands, or coals. Stabbing, beating, and cutting the victims often occurred along with the burnings, as did mutilation and dismemberment. Torturers often shot arrows or, after obtaining guns, bullets into the suffering captives. Some of the unlucky experienced the horrors of feeling themselves disemboweled, flayed, or scalped while they were still alive. On many occasions, however, the goal of torture was not death. With such customs as the gauntlet, in which victims had to run or stagger through rows of kicking, punching, and beating tribal members lined up in parallel or spiral formations, a tribe was often testing captives as potential adoptees or slaves. If a captive showed pluck or fortitude, he or she might even be rewarded with freedom.
To individual tribal groups, torture probably had many and different meanings. On one level it was surely an expression of simple revenge. Yet for most groups, torture also served military, social, and religious needs. Tribes could earn a terrifying and fearsome reputation through renowned torture. Members who had not participated in the actual battle or capture could join communally in a torture ceremony. Many indigenous peoples also believed that enemies would haunt them in an afterworld, and mutilation would distinctly disable those enemies. Sometimes torture was propitiation of certain spirits, manitous, or windigos. Whatever the case, torture was not, as many European Americans feared and believed, random, unthinking violence, but rather a custom integrated into the tribal worldview.
Matt Dillon
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STFU, you Ignoramus Giganticus you.Wow. That explains why all the MAGA morons and other enemies of the Constitution don't know shit about history.
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You don't even read The Constitution, bitch!
Matt Dillon
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^You probably fapped to that, you sick fuck. Also, you proved the point you were disagreeing with.S. C. Gwynne's book "Empire of the Summer Moon" told how Native American tribes were vicious, torturous and slavers. There was no such thing as "the noble savage". People are people. LOL
Slavery among Native Americans in the United States includes slavery by and enslavement of Native Americans roughly within what is currently the United States of America....Slavery among Native Americans in the United States - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
...Many Native-American tribes practiced some form of slavery before the European introduction of African slavery into North America.[2][3]
The Haida and Tlingit peoples who lived along the southeastern Alaskan coast were traditionally known as fierce warriors and slave-traders, raiding as far as California. Slavery was hereditary after slaves were taken as prisoners of war. Among some Pacific Northwest tribes, about a quarter of the population were slaves.[5][6] Other slave-owning tribes of North America were, for example, Comanche[7] of Texas, Creek of Georgia, the fishing societies, such as the Yurok, that lived along the coast from what is now Alaska to California; the Pawnee, and Klamath.[8]
Torture among Native Americans has historical roots in the practices of various indigenous tribes, where it was often directed towards enemies, captives, and those who violated tribal norms. While some tribes, like the Pueblo Indians, reportedly engaged in little to no torture, others, particularly in the Eastern Woodlands and Plains cultures, practiced it more frequently....Torture among Native Americans | Religion and Philosophy | Research Starters | EBSCO Research
<p>Torture among Native Americans has historical roots in the practices of various indigenous tribes, where it was often directed towards enemies, captives, and those who violated tribal norms. While some tribes, like the Pueblo Indians, reportedly engaged in little to no torture, others...www.ebsco.com
...Torture took place in several varieties. Often the captors tied enemies to a stake or other framework and burned them with bonfires, firebrands, or coals. Stabbing, beating, and cutting the victims often occurred along with the burnings, as did mutilation and dismemberment. Torturers often shot arrows or, after obtaining guns, bullets into the suffering captives. Some of the unlucky experienced the horrors of feeling themselves disemboweled, flayed, or scalped while they were still alive. On many occasions, however, the goal of torture was not death. With such customs as the gauntlet, in which victims had to run or stagger through rows of kicking, punching, and beating tribal members lined up in parallel or spiral formations, a tribe was often testing captives as potential adoptees or slaves. If a captive showed pluck or fortitude, he or she might even be rewarded with freedom.
To individual tribal groups, torture probably had many and different meanings. On one level it was surely an expression of simple revenge. Yet for most groups, torture also served military, social, and religious needs. Tribes could earn a terrifying and fearsome reputation through renowned torture. Members who had not participated in the actual battle or capture could join communally in a torture ceremony. Many indigenous peoples also believed that enemies would haunt them in an afterworld, and mutilation would distinctly disable those enemies. Sometimes torture was propitiation of certain spirits, manitous, or windigos. Whatever the case, torture was not, as many European Americans feared and believed, random, unthinking violence, but rather a custom integrated into the tribal worldview.
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
You know absolutely wrong. Dutch already made a post about it, and fapped to it too.
Natives tortured people and took slaves. Negro slaves even, retard.
Not all of them, but ones around where the settlers landed did.
I would doubt the Cheyenne did.