Trump's Business Acumen

Trump eventually convinced the mainstream banks that he was a bad credit risk, because he kept running businesses into the ground and stiffing the creditors. With his father dead and no longer to keep trickling money to him to act as collateral to make it palatable to the banks, Trump needed to turn to Russian gangsters and Putin-aligned oligarchs to take on Fred's old role of keeping him afloat in the face of the waves of his own incompetence. For a while, it was unclear why they'd be willing to lose so much money on him. Now, it's no longer unclear.

Yo Parrot? How many businesses have you started? How many people have you employed? How much wealth have you created? STFU, seriously.
 
This is what I am talking about. You make claims, cannot back them up

Once you answer my question we can move on to yours, and then you'll see what I can back up. But first, the question is what you can back up. You've been challenged. You've cowered from the challenge over and over. But I'm not going to give you an out. I'm not going to let you dodge it by moving on to a new topic. I'm going to help you find your courage, by insisting on it as the only path forward. Good luck!
 
Obama was never a businessman. He was a lawyer, community activist, and politician. Yet, in terms of how he advanced his net worth, he was vastly more successful than Trump. Trump's net worth grew at far below the pace of generic investments, despite huge handouts from his father. Obama, on the other hand, went from obscure and modest origins to great financial success. He started as the child of an immigrant, as a member of a disadvantaged minority, and was raised in a broken home, and yet he went on to be a multi-millionaire.

I can't imagine a more massive pile of stupid posted on this forum. No wonder people just point at you and laugh out loud. This was Obama's only lucid moment:

Obama says he's not ready to be President
 
Yes. And it's a charge satisfied in the case of someone who is acting as an agent of the Russian government, as these people were.



No, obviously I'm not saying that. What led you to that mistaken belief?



I could be a lot less snarky. The hope, though, is that snark will help you to focus.



How do you define the word "conspiracy"? The dictionary definition is "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful." This was definitely a secret plan by a group of people. Working through intermediaries, for purposes of being discrete, they arranged a secret meeting at Trump Tower. Now, was the purpose to do something unlawful or harmful? I'd say both. But "harmful" is in the eye of the beholder, so lets just talk about the law. Under the law, it is illegal for a foreigner to give something of value to a US campaign. The documents and information the foreigners were planning to give were hoped to be valuable by both the Trump campaign and the Russian government. So, this was a secret plan by a group to violate campaign finance law. That's a conspiracy, right?



.... there are lots of nebulous terms, but they all have definitions. How do you define collusion?
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we're done. I'm not up for arguing for arguments sake.
 
"little" tourettes man comes rushing in! Hey, while you are here, when are you going to start with the gook references?

Looks like your canned tourettes bullshit applies to everyone. Is that the best you have, cunt?

Meanwhile, the other posters continue to kick your ass.

Gook references? Are you Havana? If not, suck my dick, bitch. Those are for him and for obvious reasons. Comprende, dumbfuck?
 
The red states tend to have casinos and golf courses, instead.

Anyway, I suppose I'm not old enough to know what kind of feel the Trump brand had back in the days before his tawdry reality TV show, etc. Maybe, at one point, it was seen as legitimately fancy. But now it has the feel of a gold-plated plastic toilet seat -- like something a poor guy thinks a rich guy would think was classy.



He may be, but NYC isn't Trump. New Yorkers can't stand the guy. There's a reason Clinton absolutely demolished him in the election in New York, especially in Manhattan (where she got about nine votes for every one he got). Trump has always aspired to acceptance from New Yorkers, but they can't stand the guy. He's most popular in ultra-low-education places like West Virginia.
He has never been accepted in the circles he longed to have noterity. It is the biggest burr in his bonnet. He hoped with the Presidency it would make his brand acceptable, it hasn’t, it never will.
 
And Russian money laundering.

That's part of what makes his failure so notable. You'd think that if anyone could beat the average return on investment long-term, it would be someone willing to cheat... someone willing to defraud people, default on debts, dodge taxes, and launder money for gangsters. Yet not only did Trump not beat the average return on investments, he fell far short of that level. It's like running a marathon, cheating by taking several shortcuts, and still finishing well behind the average runner.
 
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Once you answer my question we can move on to yours, and then you'll see what I can back up. But first, the question is what you can back up. You've been challenged. You've cowered from the challenge over and over. But I'm not going to give you an out. I'm not going to let you dodge it by moving on to a new topic. I'm going to help you find your courage, by insisting on it as the only path forward. Good luck!

Just what I expected. More caving in. More dancing around. More bullshit from you. The signs of the ill informed and uneducated. Just admit you were wrong and we can start again. If not, feel free to use your partisan hackery on those that find it enlightening. I prefer facts to fantasy.
 
Looks like your canned tourettes bullshit applies to everyone. Is that the best you have, cunt?

Meanwhile, the other posters continue to kick your ass.

Gook references? Are you Havana? If not, suck my dick, bitch. Those are for him and for obvious reasons. Comprende, dumbfuck?

Not everyone. Mostly you "little" guy.
 
Were you aware that on Obama's watch we had the third-longest period economic growth in all of American history, and that US GDP growth was higher, on average, than that of other wealthy nations in the same period?

Are you aware that it was the WORST recovery in our history? Are you aware that Obama was the most divisive president in our history? Are you aware that Obama was the least experienced president in our history? Are you aware that you are a fucking idiot?

Specifically, during the Obama years, the arithmetic average GDP growth per year was 1.52%, compared to 1.23% for Great Britain, 0.60% for Japan, 1.08% for Germany, 0.63% for France, and -0.72% for Italy. It was a time of a global economic slowdown, yet the US slowed down considerably less than most of its peers.

But, compared to other Presidents, he had the worst and most anemic GDP growth. I know, morons like you think that is great and what is happening right now is terrible. You're an idiot.

The irony for Marxist dumbfucks like you is that the ONLY people who made out like bandits during Obamunism were the fat cat Wall Street bankers.

Trump came in and ran up gigantic deficits, yet we've had only modest GDP growth.

You cannot be taken serious with stupidity like this. Obama ran up higher deficits that ALL of his predecessors. STFU, seriously.

You really are a moron on steroids.

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Yo Parrot? How many businesses have you started? How many people have you employed? How much wealth have you created? STFU, seriously.

There's the Truth Detector method, yet again: ask a bunch of questions, but then cower from having them answered by demanding that the person shut the fuck up. So, which is it? Do you want them answered or do you want me to shut up?
 
You run when you receive them, I can see why folk would not bother with you in that regard.

No. I very rarely get them. To the point of almost being non existent. I do get lots of opinions, innuendo and unsubstantiated rumors though. All of those taken as fact by way too many people.
 
Huh? It's like you've completely missed the fact that the Russia collusion theory ended up being correct, and that there have been a string of top Trump officials who have either been indicted, convicted, or pleaded guilty.

On what planet parrot? Are you purposefully this big of a moron or were you born an idiot? :rofl2:

the Russia collusion theory ended up being correct SQUAWK!

the Russia collusion theory ended up being correct SQUAWK!

the Russia collusion theory ended up being correct SQUAWK!

the Russia collusion theory ended up being correct SQUAWK!
 
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we're done. I'm not up for arguing for arguments sake.

I've never asked you to argue for argument's sake. What you can see is that I asked you to back up your views on conspiracy and collusion, in light of the facts in this case. Am I right to conclude that you've spotted that both terms are actually good descriptions of what happened with the Trump Tower meeting?
 
The only one getting shredded here lady is you and your faux intelligence. I am surprised with all this data that Mueller has not brought Trump up on anything. No ties, no connections. Nothing. However, like most on the far left if you heard it, it must be fact.
How do you know they don’t have anything. Mueller keeps things pretty close to his vest and Manafort is cooperating now. We don’t know what Mueller has, but I’m going with Oneuli on this.
 
As you're well aware, the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. Trump's son, son-in-law, and campaign chair all secretly met with known agents of the Russian government for the express purpose of getting assistance from Putin's regime against their opponent. That's collusion.

Someone shove a cracker in this parrots mouth. :rofl2: I love watching people try to have a debate with this moron. It is truly priceless.

the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians SQUAWK!

the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians SQUAWK!

the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians SQUAWK!

the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians SQUAWK!
 
Most people already knew Donald Trump was a grifter and no good son-of-a-bitch!

But, that is what the Trump idiots wanted!

You would have to be a full-blown idiot to have not known this many years ago!

Donald Trump was a grifter and no good son-of-a-bitch! SQUAWK!

Donald Trump was a grifter and no good son-of-a-bitch! SQUAWK!

Donald Trump was a grifter and no good son-of-a-bitch! SQUAWK!

Donald Trump was a grifter and no good son-of-a-bitch! SQUAWK!
 
How do you know they don’t have anything. Mueller keeps things pretty close to his vest and Manafort is cooperating now. We don’t know what Mueller has, but I’m going with Oneuli on this.

According to Oneuli it is already proven and fact. Decided. Which is not correct. For you or her.
 
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