You provided no facts. At all. Nothing. Just keep implying that you did. Lets try this again shall we? When and where has Trump himself been charged or connected by Mueller for Russian collaboration or collusion? In your own terms, please be specific. For once would be nice.
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You provided no facts. At all. Nothing. Just keep implying that you did. Lets try this again shall we? When and where has Trump himself been charged or connected by Mueller for Russian collaboration or collusion? In your own terms, please be specific. For once would be nice.
The meeting was with people who were delivering documents from the Russian government as part of Russia's support for the Trump campaign. That makes them Russian agents. Maybe you are reading that as if I said "KGB Agents," or something like that.... as if I were claiming they were direct employees of the Russian government who routinely worked for Putin. Although that's the case for some of the people involved, like Natalia Veselnitskaya -- she had a history of working for key Russian officials -- that's not what I mean by "agent." I mean it in the standard sense of someone who acts on behalf of another person or group. Trump Jr. knew that these people were acting as agents to transfer documents from the Russian government to his father's campaign. That makes them Russian agents.
Do you imagine that I claimed there was such a legal term? Try to focus. I asked what you think the word means. Saying "it's not a legal term" isn't a definition. "Windy" and "horny" are each not a legal term, but that doesn't mean they have the same definition. So, how do you define "collusion"? I define it the way the dictionary does. And, by that definition, the Trump Tower meeting was collusion.
What makes you think I "get" that? Be specific, please.
As you know, I did provide facts -- for example, I cited the FACT of the Justice Department's stance on the indictability of a sitting president. But let's stay focused here, rather than spinning off to a new topic. The question is what part of what I said did you imagine sounded like I'd caved and backed away from the facts I'd presented? Be specific, please. Once you can find the courage to answer that, we can move on to your question.
Here you are spinning again. Where is the answer to this question? "When and where has Trump himself been charged or connected by Mueller for Russian collaboration or collusion? Apparently that is way to hard for you to answer. Once again, your bullshit and faux intelligence is biting you in your partisan ass. It always does.
"Russian agent" is a specific charge -now you are saying they were just general "agents?" but non-Russian agents?..OK
so that would make them leakers....OK
you could be a little less snarky. I "focus"
and I've explained over and over that this was not a conspiracy.
Collusion is a nebulous term. if you want to see collusions..ok fine
They do tend to see things that are not there to make their "case.
reagansghost
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there's no law specifying 'collusion' as a crime
so does your stupid ass know why that term is being used?
well?
Do you have tourettes? That seems to be a common problem with the lower intellectual levels of the Democrat party. You are right up there with Domer and Evince.
reagansghost
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deflection pussy
I'll happily answer, once you've answered my question. I'm not going to enable your attempt to dodge my question by moving on to new matters before that. When you find the courage to answer, we can move on. Good luck!
This is what I am talking about. You make claims, cannot back them up, then try and move the discussion into different directions. The only person with no "courage" to answer for their bullshit here is you. You and people like you are the reason no one takes Democrats seriously anymore. Nothing of substance at all.
Actually Evince looks like a genius compared to you.
Completely triggered by TDS. 
And Russian money laundering.
Obsessive little cunt today, waterboy.
Yes. And it's a charge satisfied in the case of someone who is acting as an agent of the Russian government, as these people were.
No, obviously I'm not saying that. What led you to that mistaken belief?
I could be a lot less snarky. The hope, though, is that snark will help you to focus.
How do you define the word "conspiracy"? The dictionary definition is "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful." This was definitely a secret plan by a group of people. Working through intermediaries, for purposes of being discrete, they arranged a secret meeting at Trump Tower. Now, was the purpose to do something unlawful or harmful? I'd say both. But "harmful" is in the eye of the beholder, so lets just talk about the law. Under the law, it is illegal for a foreigner to give something of value to a US campaign. The documents and information the foreigners were planning to give were hoped to be valuable by both the Trump campaign and the Russian government. So, this was a secret plan by a group to violate campaign finance law. That's a conspiracy, right?
.... there are lots of nebulous terms, but they all have definitions. How do you define collusion?
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No, you do this sort of thing frequently, and once again, partisanshitheads can always escape through labeling and scape goating in the avoidance of substance.
Can someone shove a cracker in this idiots beak?
Try rereading. I'll give you a hint SQUAWK!
Try rereading. I'll give you a hint SQUAWK!
Try rereading. I'll give you a hint SQUAWK!
Try rereading. I'll give you a hint SQUAWK!
"little" tourettes man comes rushing in! Hey, while you are here, when are you going to start with the gook references?