Adversity Score

Can't you invent some "kids in school" that you supposedly "know" to "validate" your alleged "victory?"

What validated my victory wasn't my incidental mentioning of personal anecdotes, which was only of interest for anyone who might want to delve more into those details. Rather, my victory was validated when you engaged in your customary underwear-soiling admission of defeat, with the pathetic mewling of "so you say."

Since you're mentally deficient, there's no challenge in debating you, any more than there would be in debating a small child or an old man with advanced Alzheimer's. So, I've invented my own challenge: how quickly can I get you to realize you're so outclassed that you just cower behind "so you say." I've gotten quite good at it, as you know. But getting you to admit defeat that way in your very first statement in the thread is a new level of dominance for me. I'm going to have to think up a new game to keep it interesting.
 
What validated my victory wasn't my incidental mentioning of personal anecdotes, which was only of interest for anyone who might want to delve more into those details. Rather, my victory was validated when you engaged in your customary underwear-soiling admission of defeat, with the pathetic mewling of "so you say." Since you're mentally deficient, there's no challenge in debating you, any more than there would be in debating a small child or an old man with advanced Alzheimer's. So, I've invented my own challenge: how quickly can I get you to realize you're so outclassed that you just cower behind "so you say." I've gotten quite good at it, as you know. But getting you to admit defeat that way in your very first statement in the thread is a new level of dominance for me. I'm going to have to think up a new game to keep it interesting.

So you say. Can't you make up an imaginary friend who agrees with you?
 
Strange what some here believe to be "victories"....the explanations are priceless, though...:thumbsup:
 
Strange what some here believe to be "victories"....
Well, when dealing with a deranged imbecile like Legion, the game has to be altered a bit. It's not like I can call it a victory merely because I made the stronger substantive points, since he has yet to make a substantive point in any thread. So, instead, I've had fun picking on him until he starts incoherently whimpering "so you say" and then I tally the win. It's not a particularly challenging sport, but it may be the best challenge he's able to offer.
 
Well, when dealing with a deranged imbecile like Legion, the game has to be altered a bit. It's not like I can call it a victory merely because I made the stronger substantive points, since he has yet to make a substantive point in any thread. So, instead, I've had fun picking on him until he starts incoherently whimpering "so you say" and then I tally the win. It's not a particularly challenging sport, but it may be the best challenge he's able to offer.
If it makes you happy;) ...
 
Well, when dealing with a deranged imbecile like Legion, the game has to be altered a bit. It's not like I can call it a victory merely because I made the stronger substantive points, since he has yet to make a substantive point in any thread. So, instead, I've had fun picking on him until he starts incoherently whimpering "so you say" and then I tally the win. It's not a particularly challenging sport, but it may be the best challenge he's able to offer.

So you say.
 
In school I knew some kids who were from a dirt-poor immigrant family, dealing with language, social, and economic obstacles, and yet when universities looked at them, they were just generically viewed as "Asian," and judged by harder standards than other applicants. Meanwhile, I had a friend who was the child of two doctors, whose grandparents had also gone to college, and who grew up with all the advantages money could buy. But, when colleges looked at her, she was "African American" and so assumed to have overcome major socioeconomic obstacles

So she says.
 
The SAT will soon begin reporting aspects of a student's background to colleges, in order to allow the college to factor it into admissions decisions. The idea is that someone who came from a privileged family and got great SAT scores may actually be less impressive than someone who came from a very difficult background and got merely good scores.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/16/us/sat-adversity-score/index.html

I like the overall idea, including as an alternative to race-based affirmative action. In school I knew some kids who were from a dirt-poor immigrant family, dealing with language, social, and economic obstacles, and yet when universities looked at them, they were just generically viewed as "Asian," and judged by harder standards than other applicants. Meanwhile, I had a friend who was the child of two doctors, whose grandparents had also gone to college, and who grew up with all the advantages money could buy. But, when colleges looked at her, she was "African American" and so assumed to have overcome major socioeconomic obstacles. Race-based affirmative action is probably better than making no attempt to address systemic racism, since it will diminish inequities more often than it will exacerbate them, just as a statistical reality. But more individualized approaches are superior.

Having said that, I question the way this particular plan is being set up. Specifically, the factors include "the crime rate and poverty levels of a student's high school and neighborhood." That's not terribly individualized, either. Consider two hypothetical students:

Student A comes from a poor family. They live in a space above the family's little restaurant, where the kids work in the evenings to help make ends meet. The restaurant, however, is in a pretty nice neighborhood... by design, since the family was desperate to get into a good school system, even if it meant cramming six people into a 900 square foot space and working themselves to the bone. (note, this hypothetical is based on a second cousin of mine)

Student B comes from a rich family. In fact, it's the wealthiest family in a whole county -- a rural county where they own the local car dealership and the patriarch is the mayor of the town. However, the town itself is pretty run-down. (note, this hypothetical is based on someone I knew in college).

Which of the two really overcame the most? Was it the one from the family scrimping and saving to live a spartan life in an expensive neighborhood, or the one living like feudal lords of an economically depressed kingdom? I'd argue that the first student overcame a lot more. You can live in a lousy town and attend a crummy school, but if you can afford to live in a gated community within that town and get expensive tutoring and enrichment opportunities, setting doesn't matter so much. In fact, you could be better off as a rich person in a poor neighborhood than a rich person in a rich one, given weaker academic competition and the ability of your dollar to go farther.

So, I'd argue in favor of an "adversity score" that was based strictly on money. Simply consider the parents' income over the prior five years, for example, and assign a score based on that. That's going to be the best realistic proxy for how much adversity the student likely faced.

In other words, poor niggers living as bastards get something else they don't deserve at the expense of white people that earned it academically.
 
It would make me happier to have a substantive challenge for a real debate. But we take our pleasures where we can find them.

Anyone like you that supports something like this doesn't want debate. There's no way to defend what you support.
 
In other words, poor niggers living as bastards get something else they don't deserve at the expense of white people that earned it academically.

From the perspective of a functionally retarded racist, yes, I suppose that's how it looks. But, if you were capable of reading at at least a fifth-grade level, you'd see that this isn't about race at all. It's about economic background -- either individualized, by family, as I favor, or geographically, as they're apparently doing.
 
The SAT will soon begin reporting aspects of a student's background to colleges, in order to allow the college to factor it into admissions decisions. The idea is that someone who came from a privileged family and got great SAT scores may actually be less impressive than someone who came from a very difficult background and got merely good scores.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/16/us/sat-adversity-score/index.html

I like the overall idea, including as an alternative to race-based affirmative action. In school I knew some kids who were from a dirt-poor immigrant family, dealing with language, social, and economic obstacles, and yet when universities looked at them, they were just generically viewed as "Asian," and judged by harder standards than other applicants. Meanwhile, I had a friend who was the child of two doctors, whose grandparents had also gone to college, and who grew up with all the advantages money could buy. But, when colleges looked at her, she was "African American" and so assumed to have overcome major socioeconomic obstacles. Race-based affirmative action is probably better than making no attempt to address systemic racism, since it will diminish inequities more often than it will exacerbate them, just as a statistical reality. But more individualized approaches are superior.

Having said that, I question the way this particular plan is being set up. Specifically, the factors include "the crime rate and poverty levels of a student's high school and neighborhood." That's not terribly individualized, either. Consider two hypothetical students:

Student A comes from a poor family. They live in a space above the family's little restaurant, where the kids work in the evenings to help make ends meet. The restaurant, however, is in a pretty nice neighborhood... by design, since the family was desperate to get into a good school system, even if it meant cramming six people into a 900 square foot space and working themselves to the bone. (note, this hypothetical is based on a second cousin of mine)

Student B comes from a rich family. In fact, it's the wealthiest family in a whole county -- a rural county where they own the local car dealership and the patriarch is the mayor of the town. However, the town itself is pretty run-down. (note, this hypothetical is based on someone I knew in college).

Which of the two really overcame the most? Was it the one from the family scrimping and saving to live a spartan life in an expensive neighborhood, or the one living like feudal lords of an economically depressed kingdom? I'd argue that the first student overcame a lot more. You can live in a lousy town and attend a crummy school, but if you can afford to live in a gated community within that town and get expensive tutoring and enrichment opportunities, setting doesn't matter so much. In fact, you could be better off as a rich person in a poor neighborhood than a rich person in a rich one, given weaker academic competition and the ability of your dollar to go farther.

So, I'd argue in favor of an "adversity score" that was based strictly on money. Simply consider the parents' income over the prior five years, for example, and assign a score based on that. That's going to be the best realistic proxy for how much adversity the student likely faced.

why Dems are losing. you're retarded
 
Anyone like you that supports something like this doesn't want debate. There's no way to defend what you support.

I'd love a debate. Unfortunately, I'll have to wait until one of the more intelligent posters shows up. Until then, all we'll get is brain-dead "so you say" babbling, and your racist outbursts.
 
why Dems are losing. you're retarded

With some posters, I'm left wondering whether they're secretly allies of mine who are only posting in the guise of the crudest, stupidest caricatures of right-wing imbeciles and bigots in order to discredit the conservative movement.
 
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