Here's why the soft civil war will go hot...

[Into the Night]

Did Ft Sumter vote to secede from America?

No. Neither did South Carolina, nor any other State of the Confederacy.

Also, what do we call citizens of the US, again?

U.S. citizens.

It's mostly done.

No, it's done. It's long dead history. The United States prevailed. Slavery legally ended. It's done.

There are still those people who hate America and pine for the Confederacy.

The Confederacy is part of America. Yes, I know there are people that want slavery to return. They are called Democrats. They are racist. They are trying to overthrow the country.

Wish they would just leave and move to Europe,

Europe has had enough of them. Remember Hitler and Mussolini? Why inflict that upon them again?

or someplace.

Socialists are already in every corner of the world. They are evil. They are thieves. They are thugs. They are racists. They are bigots. They are they that would enslave. In the U.S. they are the Democrat Party. You can't just make them go away on a wish.

And to stop fucking lying.

Lies don't fuck. I'm not lying. You just can't seem to understand what 'America' is. You must've failed geography. You can't seem to understand what history is. You seem to have failed that too (or your instructor did).

 

[Into the Night]

Are you saying that southerners are incapable of being honest and faithful to the contracts that they enter into? Because, I can accept that assertion.

No. Do not put words in my mouth. There is no valid contract.

 

[Airstrip One]

No. Neither did South Carolina, nor any other State of the Confederacy.

U.S. citizens.

No, it's done. It's long dead history. The United States prevailed. Slavery legally ended. It's done.

The Confederacy is part of America. Yes, I know there are people that want slavery to return. They are called Democrats. They are racist. They are trying to overthrow the country.

Europe has had enough of them. Remember Hitler and Mussolini? Why inflict that upon them again?

Socialists are already in every corner of the world. They are evil. They are thieves. They are thugs. They are racists. They are bigots. They are they that would enslave. In the U.S. they are the Democrat Party. You can't just make them go away on a wish.

Lies don't fuck. I'm not lying. You just can't seem to understand what 'America' is. You must've failed geography. You can't seem to understand what history is. You seem to have failed that too (or your instructor did).

Every state of the CSA seceded from America. Perhaps you have never encountered a demonym before. I never really know what to expect from friends of the Confederacy.

https://djaunter.com/american-demon...he only official,this as the official demonym.

 

[Into the Night]

Yes, which is why I don't refer to the as American, which is a term reserved for citizens of this beloved country.

No. Americans are everyone that lives in North or South America. It matters not whether they are from the United States, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Cuba, or Venezuela.

The Confederates were attempting to commit theft,

The did not steal their own States. You can't steal from yourself.
That said, the slave owners DID commit theft. Theft of another mans' work.

as the land was sovereign,

Sovereign to the State of South Carolina, a State of the Confederacy at the time, not to the United States. The States of the Confederacy were an independent nation at the time.

and neither leased nor borrowed.

Correct the land belonged to the State of South Carolina.

 

[Into the Night]

Every state of the CSA seceded from America.

None of them did. They seceded from the United States.

Perhaps you have never encountered a demonym before.

Perhaps you have no idea what one is, since you deny it.

I never really know what to expect from friends of the Confederacy.

I am not friends of the Confederacy. The Confederacy is gone. It's destroyed. Slavery is no longer legal. It's done.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yes, which is why I don't refer to the as American, which is a term reserved for citizens of this beloved country.

The Confederates were attempting to commit theft, as the land was sovereign, and neither leased nor borrowed.

So you agree that Lincoln started a war with and invaded a foreign country. That's a start. As for Fort Sumter, it was South Carolina's island. They gave the Union multiple chances to leave and then, when they refused, were evicted. No one was killed by the Confederates unlike when the Union attacks Native Americans or invaded Virginia.

It's interesting that you go to war first instead of just asking the CSA to compensate the US for the loss of their facility. Should we do this with all of our foreign policy?

The Conch Revolution also comes to mind.

 

[Airstrip One]

So you agree that Lincoln started a war with and invaded a foreign country. That's a start. As for Fort Sumter, it was South Carolina's island. They gave the Union multiple chances to leave and then, when they refused, were evicted. No one was killed by the Confederates unlike when the Union attacks Native Americans or invaded Virginia.

It's interesting that you go to war first instead of just asking the CSA to compensate the US for the loss of their facility. Should we do this with all of our foreign policy?

The Conch Revolution also comes to mind.

Absolutely not. You do not capitulate to the likes of the CSA. History shows what happens when you appease a degenerate people such as that. America was right to hold onto its fort.

 

[Airstrip One]

None of them did. They seceded from the United States.

Perhaps you have no idea what one is, since you deny it.

I am not friends of the Confederacy. The Confederacy is gone. It's destroyed. Slavery is no longer legal. It's done.

You have no conception of what a demonym is, just as you have no understanding of such basic things as sovereignty and contracts. Are you disappointed that slavery is no longer legal?

 

[BattleofHodow]

The Yankees are correct. However, the Yankees also committed many acts of war, just as the CSA did.
You are correct in pointing out that seceding from the United States is not an act of war.

The North should've let the South seceede, just think less freebies, less military pensions, less war, better healthcare system etc.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Trump is not forcing any business to do anything by dictat. Everything he has done has been through negotiations with the companies involved, and those companies willingly agreed, not by any duress.

Trump stands for the Constitution of the United States and the constitutions of the several States. That makes him a conservative.

Fiscal matters are decided by the House, not Trump.

WTF is 'socially Conservative'??

Trump talks about postponing elections, rigged elections, banning TikTok, fake news, and bringing in Authoritarian Federal Police in against state rights.... Meanwhile, Nothing Conservative about Trump.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

Trump talks about postponing elections, rigged elections, banning TikTok, fake news, and bringing in Authoritarian Federal Police in against state rights.... Meanwhile, Nothing Conservative about Trump.

the new normal requires new tactics, from all involved parties.

it used to be our main parties as least feigned goodness and normalcy.

maybe polcakcs, having endured much communist malfeasance, think western banker productions are the solution, should think again.

the song remains the same.

#ledzeppelin

the fifty to eighty year olddds are in control.

who do weser v.?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Absolutely not. You do not capitulate to the likes of the CSA. History shows what happens when you appease a degenerate people such as that. America was right to hold onto its fort.

LOL. Thanks for both the demonstration of Yankee hate and "history is written by the victors".

 

[Airstrip One]

LOL. Thanks for both the demonstration of Yankee hate and "history is written by the victors".

You can write all of the CSA propaganda that you wish. In fact, the losers wrote the history of Reconstruction for well over a century. You just don't get to have thinking people agree with you.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You can write all of the CSA propaganda that you wish. In fact, the losers wrote the history of Reconstruction for well over a century. You just don't get to have thinking people agree with you.

Really? Where did you read that? LOL

 

[Airstrip One]

Really? Where did you read that? LOL

I've read about it a number of times. Here's one example.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/29/opinion/sunday/why-reconstruction-matters.html

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I've read about it a number of times. Here's one example.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/29/opinion/sunday/why-reconstruction-matters.html

Thanks for the article by a Ivy League professor. It's always nice to see the views of a New York liberal about how the South really won the Civil War. LOL

 

[Airstrip One]

Thanks for the article by a Ivy League professor. It's always nice to see the views of a New York liberal about how the South really won the Civil War. LOL

Well, we did get stuck having to reintegrate their dumbasses into America.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Well, we did get stuck having to reintegrate their dumbasses into America.

Especially after Sherman's mass murder march to the sea.

 

[Airstrip One]

Especially after Sherman's mass murder march to the sea.

One of America's greatest generals of all-time. I think they should rename Ft Benning as Ft Sherman.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

One of America's greatest generals of all-time. I think they should rename Ft Benning as Ft Sherman.

It'll probably be Fort Ivanka so everyone can be happy.