Bette Middler Speaks
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I said it was silly to care about trans argument of inclusion?
Ichabod Stain
Was it me?
cawacko
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Definite element of generational play here. You've probably spent most of your life calling women women and I can imagine now saying birthing people doesn't come naturally.
Ichabod Stain
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no.
it's fucking stupid to say "birthing people" when women are the ones who give birth.
Just because maybe with great scientific effort a man can give birth, it's fucking stupid to portray that as non-freakish.
Geeko Sportivo
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I think you sling around the word Feminist loosely and ignorantly!
Please allow me to advise you that the opposite of a feminist is- misogynist! Which describes you the most?
The word FEMINIST significantly, poses no mention of any gender. This opens up possibilities for both benefits and responsibilities of such work to achieve feminist goals as being shared by female, male and non-binary individuals equally across society. Anyone, can be a feminist.
Feminism is a movement to end sexism, sexist exploitation, and oppression.
AS A MAN, YOU SHOULD CHOOSE YOUR SIDE CAREFULLY AND INTELLIGENTLY!
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cawacko
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Ok. I have no idea what you just said in relation to what I just posted. Did you actually listen to the podcast?
Geeko Sportivo
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Here, allow me make this so simple- even a 5th grader will understand- JUST FOR YOU!
Either you are a feminist- or you are a misogynist!
Either you are for women's rights- or you believe women should not have the same rights as men!
There is no in-between!
Ichabod Stain
Was it me?
false dichotomy fallacy. only stupidity presented.
cawacko
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Ok?
I'm still not following where this is coming from. What does that have to do with the discussion/debate over whether women should be called women or the claimed more inclusive terms like birthing people? Are feminists who think along the lines of Bette Midler now misogynist because they don't use trans inclusive language?
Geeko Sportivo
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Nothing false or stupid in my comments!
Ichabod Stain
Was it me?
just the dichotomy.
women have more rights already
you are not forced to fill out a selective service registration card and be ordered as a human meat shield in wars that society says you have to fight in.
you just have to take responsibility for things you consider to be mistakes. boo hoo
Geeko Sportivo
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Geeko Sportivo
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What rights do women have that men don't have?
Ichabod Stain
Was it me?
A false dilemma, also referred to as false dichotomy, is an informal fallacy based on a premise that erroneously limits what options are available. The source of the fallacy lies not in an invalid form of inference but in a false premise.
I just pointed it out
Women are not forced to fill out a selective service card when they turn 18. They have never been ordered to go to war against their will.
oh - so you had no idea most of the rights you consider so important were actually won because men had no choice and were conscripted to serve.
see - that is the problem here - you claim a right over the autonomy of your body - but men do no have that right - they can be ordered to go risk their lives if society deems it necessary - so your lack of historical awareness is embarrassing for you as you demand the right to kill babies
Geeko Sportivo
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I just pointed it out
Women are not forced to fill out a selective service card when they turn 18. They have never been ordered to go to war against their will.
oh - so you had no idea most of the rights you consider so important were actually won because men had no choice and were conscripted to serve.
see - that is the problem here - you claim a right over the autonomy of your body - but men do no have that right - they can be ordered to go risk their lives if society deems it necessary - so your lack of historical awareness is embarrassing for you as you demand the right to kill babies
Last time I looked- The draft was was abolished- 49 years ago to be exact- You know- just after Abortions became legal!
You may want to keep up with the times!
wrong - 49 years ago we stopped drafting men to go to war - we did not say they have a right to not be drafted - that right is one only women have.
every 18 year old male must still fill out a selective service registration card.
At any time society can still force men to war - so men do not have autonomy you claim are a right of yours
Theywillneverlearn!
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That Geeko person is one uniformed asshole.