Help me out: why do people believe Trump?

[Into the Night]

They buy these lies because they are not very bright

Not lies. You are not very bright.

Not all of a population of people can be smart enough to spot a con man

They spotted losers like Biden and YOU.

Some are so mentally vulnerable that they can not decern what a fact is in a rational manner

Inversion fallacy.

They are incapable of logical thinking

Inversion fallacy.

They think with their child like emotions

Inversion fallacy.

These stupid people get all excited when someone rubs their egos by telling them they are smarter than everyone else

Inversion fallacy.

The trump faction has been massaged by Fox News into feeling good about being stupid

FOX is owned by Democrats.

For once in their lives someone told them that those people in their lives who have always bettered them in any debate are the stupid ones

No debates here. Just conversations. Inversion fallacy.

Fox told them that nephew of theirs who humiliated them with facts every holiday is the one who is stupid

FOX is owned by Democrats.

Fox gave them idiot retorts that stop any rational person for a second as that rational person thinks “what the fuck is wrong with this persons brains”

You are describing yourself again.

Fox owned these idiots

Fox doesn't own anyone. Fox is owned by Democrats.

Then another con man came along and conned fox out of the ownership of this idiot brigade

Biden.

Trump did the same thing to fox that fox was doing to their base

Trump did nothing to FOX.

Drug them along like an excited puppy with a new toy

Inversion fallacy.

Fox tried now and then to resist

Resist what?

But the monster fox created had totally switched their aligence to trump

Fox didn't create trump or a monster.

Trump out foxed fox

Easily done.

Fox had created a market for outlets to feed idiots lies

Nah. The market was already there. Fox is owned by the Democrats.

Trump now owned them all and created new ones that sought to be trumps best one

Trump does not own Fox. Fox is owned by the Democrats.

Fox couldn’t afford to anoint a new Republican over trump

Fox doesn't anoint anyone.

All the viewers would just switch to OAN or some other turd outlet

So you consider that a news outlet owned by Democrats to be a turd. I agree.

Now all of them are being sued out of existence for lying about individuals and corporations that these idiots had to lie about to protect trumps ass

Trump doesn't need anyone protecting his ass. He is quite capable of protecting his own ass.

America is in fact taking care of these idiots as we speak

Yes. More and more of America is rejecting Democrats.

It is running its course and America and it’s brilliant system is crushing them

Yes. More and more of America is rejecting Democrats.

Yes it takes time

Maybe it's the stuff Democrats stole. Maybe it's the tyranny. Maybe it's the constant utter hatred of Americans. Maybe it's the war mongering. Maybe it's the election fraud. Maybe it's the high inflation rate. Maybe it's the shortages. ALL BY DEMOCRATS.

But the republicans have been dead set on killing democracy for many years

There is no democracy. Redefinition fallacy (oligarchy<->democracy).

They can not win elections when facts are held on high

Inversion fallacy.

The minute the republicans started with the meme that “America is not a democracy”

It isn't. The 'federal' government is now an oligarchy. The United States was organized as a federated republic.

it should have been clear to ANY HUMAN that the Republican Party decided to end American Democracy

There is no democracy and never was.

It was the only way that they could continue to due the bidding of the corporate class and stay relevant

Class warfare. Bigotry. Assumption of victory fallacy.

They had to murder Democracy

No democracy. Never was.

They lost

Trump has never lost an election.

We are now in the final processes of rolling the dead body of the failed Republican Party into its deserved grave

Assumption of victory fallacy.

We are winning

Assumption of victory fallacy and blatant lie.

Anti democracy ass boils are losing

No democracy. There never was. Redefinition fallacy (oligarchy<->democracy).

Fear not
Democracy is strong

No democracy.

 

[Into the Night]

I'm really beginning to think your stupidity isnt an act.

It isn't. He's really that stupid.

What that idiot Brandon says is completely meaningless to me not just because he's a senile old fool but because we have 50 years of his lies in public office. If they REALLY don't know how the fuck the cocaine got there then even an idiot like you could get a nuclear bomb in there. Honest to God I swear I WANT to take you seriously but its impossible

That's right. It's impossible.

 

[Into the Night]

COLOR=#333333]COLOR=#333333]Read this because it's simple to understand and 100% accurate.[/COLOR][/COLOR]

Void reference fallacy. Base rate fallacy.

COLOR=#333333]COLOR=#333333]Trump tells very stupid people that they're smart and totally right to be racists and xenophobes.[/COLOR][/COLOR]

Trump does not tell anyone to be racist or a xenophobe. Blatant lie.

COLOR=#333333]COLOR=#333333]They're so relieved not to be laughed at and looked down upon[/COLOR][/COLOR]
COLOR=#333333]COLOR=#333333]as they always are by intellectually superior people [whom they regard as "elites" [/COLOR][/COLOR]

Paradox. Irrational.

COLOR=#333333]COLOR=#333333]that they're willing to vote in 180º perfect opposition to their own economic best interests.[/COLOR][/COLOR]

Economic depression is not in the economic best interest.

COLOR=#333333]COLOR=#333333]This is the correct analysis of America's downfall whether you want to believe it or not.[/COLOR][/COLOR]

The coup was organized and conducted successfully (so far!) by DEMOCRATS.

COLOR=#333333]COLOR=#333333]First, our constitution gave the goobers more political representation than their numbers warranted.[/COLOR][/COLOR]

No, it doesn't.

COLOR=#333333]COLOR=#333333]Second, the goobers turned out to be far more stupid than the founders anticipated.[/COLOR][/COLOR]

You don't get so speak for the dead. Calling half the population 'goobers' gets you nowhere.

COLOR=#333333]COLOR=#333333]Third, we started getting B list actors and reality show hosts as our chief executives.[/COLOR][/COLOR]

No we didn't, but why not?

COLOR=#333333]COLOR=#333333]Fourth, we're on the path to dystopia.[/COLOR][/COLOR]

We are already there, thanks to Biden and Democrats.

 

[Into the Night]

Yep, you hit the points in the playbook. Deflect, deny and distract. Perfect!

Inversion fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Honestly, that's pretty weak whataboutism.

Biden doesn't have a cult like Trump does. Many Dems would love to see the party go in a different direction. And Biden doesn't lie on the level Trump does.

This thread is specifically about the election lies, though. Anyone who has watched Trump could have predicted he'd go w/ the "if they win, they cheated" approach.

You can't make the evidence of election fraud by Democrats just disappear by blaming Trump or anybody else.

 

[Into the Night]

His fans do not believe a word of this crap!

They just don't care!

They think that Donald Trump owns the Democrats- and that is all that matters to these Trumptards!

Sorry, but Donnie Don't own anyone- and he will be in jail out of harms way!

Trump does not own Democrats. Why would he want to invest in them????!?
What crime?

 

[Into the Night]

You also claim to be a Christian when you have clearly proved there is nothing Christian about you. Sad.

You are not God, Sock.

 

[Into the Night]

Trump has exposed pretty clearly that there will always be about 30% of society that is irredeemable stupid, gullible and who have fascist tendencies.

They rely on the apathy of others as they look to seize power, to implement their goals of hate, xenophobia and racism.

I don't think anyone is surprised. Things like slavery or fascism would not exist without such a base. Trump has just managed to become a magnet for them.

Trump is not a fascist. He's a capitalist.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

FONDELING MY ASS
SHAVING IT SMOOTH FOR PICTURES
LOVING MY FACEBOOK​

Bulverism. Bigotry.

Bulverism fallacy. Bigotry.

Bulverism. Bigotry. False Authority.

bigotry, bulverism,

 

[Into the Night]

IBdaFool is relentlessly stupid! Are we sure this isn't legion?

YALSA.

Dumb lizard.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You are not God, Sock.

Bulverism. Bigotry.

Bulverism fallacy. Bigotry.

Bulverism. Bigotry. False Authority.

bigotry, bulverism,

 

[Into the Night]

You had the neocons who believed in Ronnie Raygun as "The Great Communicator".
You had the teabaggers who believed in the Shrub as "The War President".

Now you have the MAGA minions who believe in the Orange Oaf as the GOAT President who is a victim of the "deep state".

All three require a major suspension of disbelief, willful ignorance and a high degree of victimhood & bigotry.

What victimhood? What bigotry?
MAGA isn't a person nor a minion.

 

[QP!]

Trump is not a fascist. He's a capitalist.

No he really is not. He tries to be but he fails miserably at the Capitalist thing.

He is a fascist wannabe. He loves and admires fascists and would love to be able to pull off what they do.

 

[Into the Night]

No he really is not. He tries to be but he fails miserably at the Capitalist thing.

Since he's a successful real estate developer, you are simply making shit up.

He is a fascist wannabe.
He loves and admires fascists and would love to be able to pull off what they do.

Trump is not a Democrat or a socialist.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

What victimhood? What bigotry?
MAGA isn't a person nor a minion.

Bulverism. Bigotry.

Bulverism fallacy. Bigotry.

Bulverism. Bigotry. False Authority.

bigotry, bulverism,

 

[QP!]

Read this because it's simple to understand and 100% accurate.

Trump tells very stupid people that they're smart and totally right to be racists and xenophobes.

They're so relieved not to be laughed at and looked down upon
as they always are by intellectually superior people [whom they regard as "elites" ]
that they're willing to vote in 180º perfect opposition to their own economic best interests.

This is the correct analysis of America's downfall whether you want to believe it or not.

First, our constitution gave the goobers more political representation than their numbers warranted.
Second, the goobers turned out to be far more stupid than the founders anticipated.
Third, we started getting B list actors and reality show hosts as our chief executives.
Fourth, we're on the path to dystopia.

It's really not that complicated.
Tragic, yes, but not complicated.

^^^^ THIS!

Society will always exist on a bell curve with the bottom 30% of the population being stupid, xenophobic and hateful.

Trump admits that and celebrates that portion of the population as his base. Trump knows that and targets the 'Poorly Educated', knowing they are most susceptible to cult behaviour, believing lies and tend to naturally be afraid of others and filled with hate.


This is nothing new. Every society has this 30% of the dumbest citizens. Trump just weaponized them. Other Republicans considered it in years past but they knew the Southern Strategy, while having the potential to motivate a base could destroy the party, if activated.

That is why LIndsey Graham said 'if Trump won the 2016 Primaries he would destroy the party and they would deserve it' as the GOP was well aware of danger of empowering the dumbest and most hateful in the party. And we now see LIndsey's prediction playing out in real time.

 

[Jarod]

Regarding 2020 being "rigged."

Trump is a liar. He has a long, long history of lying. He's pathological. He has lied his entire life, and there are literally thousands of documented lies he has told.

Trump hates losing. And anyone who has watched his career from the start knows it goes very far beyond that: he CAN NOT accept losing. Under any circumstances. He will never admit to a loss, ever. He claimed fraud in 2016 simply because he lost the popular vote.

Both points are evidenced by his willingness to believe ANY theory, false evidence, or bogus claim that was made, from election night on. He latched onto anything, with desperation. He claimed fraud in 2016, but then pivoted quickly in 2020 to the idea that more mail-in and special rules around that allowed Dems to "rig" it. Anything that would help him maintain the illusion he hadn't lost.

It's maddening that people buy this act. Are Americans this naive...this irrational? It has shaken my faith in this country, a great deal. It's very hard to comprehend.

Because they are sad failures who live in pretend land.

 

[Into the Night]

^^^^ THIS!

Society will always exist on a bell curve with the bottom 30% of the population being stupid, xenophobic and hateful.

Trump admits that and celebrates that portion of the population as his base. Trump knows that and targets the 'Poorly Educated', knowing they are most susceptible to cult behaviour, believing lies and tend to naturally be afraid of others and filled with hate.


This is nothing new. Every society has this 30% of the dumbest citizens. Trump just weaponized them. Other Republicans considered it in years past but they knew the Southern Strategy, while having the potential to motivate a base could destroy the party, if activated.

That is why LIndsey Graham said 'if Trump won the 2016 Primaries he would destroy the party and they would deserve it' as the GOP was well aware of danger of empowering the dumbest and most hateful in the party. And we now see LIndsey's prediction playing out in real time.

Insulting whole populations gets you nowhere.

 

[Into the Night]

Because they are sad failures who live in pretend land.

Inversion fallacy.

 

[Yakuda]

Because they are sad failures who live in pretend land.

This from someone who believes a person with a penis is actually a woman because they feel like a woman. To have someone as far into pretend land as you claim others live there is hilarious. I assumed even leftist stupidity had limits but apparently not.