Your response was a non-sequitur, your overt support for the most left leaning POTUS in this countries history is proof positive that you were never a republican especially considering that Obama was every bit as interventionist as Bush. But we know why you supported Obama's interventionist foreign policy and that is because unlike Bush, Obama intervened on behalf and in support of rather than in opposition to the Islamist enemies of the United States.
Nearly all Religious People in the World are Lefties
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Your response was a non-sequitur, your overt support for the most left leaning POTUS in this countries history is proof positive that you were never a republican especially considering that Obama was every bit as interventionist as Bush. But we know why you supported Obama's interventionist foreign policy and that is because unlike Bush, Obama intervened on behalf and in support of rather than in opposition to the Islamist enemies of the United States.
Except the majorities of Muslims in those countries support it you stupid fuck.
Bush wasn't an interventionist.. Bush was about regime change.
The US never had any control over the Arab Spring nor did we instigate it.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
What did he do a good job at? Was it his plastic reset with Russia, his line-in-the-sand in Syria, or his handling of the situation in Libya? Perhaps the high levels of GDP were an indicator?
What outcome did you expect when Libya and Syria went crazy in the spring of 2011?
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
Nothing good comes from Muslim countries.
There were no good choices in Libya or Syria.. The only thing that Obama could have done was put large occupation forces in both countries indefinitely. Would you have supported that?
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
We already have our hands full with Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama invited criticism by posturing as though he would take action in Syria if Assad went too far.
I agree about still being stuck in Afghanistan and with the bills from 12 years of war.
Inviting criticism is a reasonable accusation... Invading Syria would put us in direct conflict with both Russia and Iran. Were you ready for that?
I can't have a conversation with someone this fucking stupid, support for regime change and nation building is an interventionist foreign policy.
The political government of a state decide actions of foreign intervention and foreign policy. Political interventionism can include methods such as sanctions on a foreign economy or international trade with similar results to protectionism, or other international sanctions through international cooperation decisions guarding international law or global justice. Political support or political capital, such as nationalism or ethnic conflict also decide foreign intervention actions such as occupation, nation-building and national security policies.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interventionism_(politics)
It wasn't an Arab Spring it was an Islamist winter and Obama absolutely did support it and in the case of Libya directly intervened for regime change on behalf of the AQ aligned Islamists now running the country.
I used to live across the street from the US embassy in Tripoli and on the same street as the Russian embassy and the palace... so I have paid close attention to Libya.. and I remember Ghaddafi when he was 27 ..
Obama had NO control over what was happening in Libya.. There were NO good choices. There was a glimmer of hope that if Ghaddafi fell they might reinstate the Idris Constitution.
The US and Obama didn't seek regime change in Libya. Bush and the neocons of the PNAC lobbied hard for regime change in Iraq. You do remember Netanyahu's Clean Break Strategy, don't you?
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
Was Obama ready for that? He drew the line, after all.
Probably not.. so you would have proceeded to go to war with Iran and Russia to save face?
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
Or not drawn the line?
Trump still has a chance.. Assad is gassing civilians in Gouta now.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
Anyway, our forces apparently came into conflict with Russian mercenaries last month.
http://www.newsweek.com/total-f-russian-mercenaries-syria-lament-us-strike-killed-dozens-818073
http://www.newsweek.com/total-f-russian-mercenaries-syria-lament-us-strike-killed-dozens-818073
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Well if you weren’t a moron you’d understand you don’t s have that first clue what you’re talking about but extremist like you view your own insanity as normal and consider normal extreme. Now don’t you have some kittens you need to go drown?
Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
I see you've moved on from pure ad hom and are now generating semi-intellectual grunts. How could I have moved the goal posts when I wrote this in the OP?
Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
If you want somewhere to preach religion start your own thread. Henceforward you won’t be able to preach in any of mine.
Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
It’s time you learned the difference between the noun ‘conservative’ and the adjective ‘conservative’. The noun refers to politics. The adjective can refer to religion and politics. In my first couple of sentences in the OP I made it clear I was referring to the noun. You have since been trying to mix the two meanings up.