𝗢𝗯𝗮𝗺𝗮 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝗶𝘁 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿...

[Ichabod Stain]

Actually, we've had some very good ones, and some really bad ones. Trump, like Obama is run of the mill. Not great, but not terrible. Biden was terrible.

For example, I think Eisenhower was good. Kennedy was OMG dangerous. Ronnie Raygun? On one hand he ended the Cold War, on the other he put a big hit on the economy to do it and his Central American policies were handled like shit. Buchanan, Fillmore, and Pierce were all shit Presidents. Bush I was mediocre and Bush II only a bit better.

Clinton was pretty good on policy and economics, but easily one of the most despicable, if not the most despicable persons to ever hold the office.

You can't articulate why Trump is so bad other than to spew spittle laden bile about him.

wrong.

trump is great, globalist asswagon.

 

[Nordberg]

What you've missed is that it was Reagan, Clinton, and Democrats--with the help of some Republicans--in Congress that set this mess up. It wasn't a one-party issue and Bush just caught the trainwreck at the end. So, don't pin this shit on Republicans alone. Democrats played a pivotal role in all that. They weren't alone, but they controlled Congress back then.

It was Bush and his Treasury Secretary. The Repubs pushed the bill through in a late lnight session that ended at 3 AM with Republicans crowing about their great achievement and the Dems sadly talking about the upcoming mess the Republicans pushed through,.

 

[Walt]

That would be due to a combination of things, mostly done by Congress and government, going back as far as 1977.

So stuff done by the Congress in 1977 made mortgages collapse 30 years later?

As with the previous S&L scandal of the 70's

Savings & Loans did fine in the 1970's. Reagan deregulated them in the 1980's, and a few years later there was the S&L Crisis. See how that works?

Obama left office with a mediocre economy and rising CPI

Obama left office with inflation too low, so if he had a rising CPI, that would have been good.

 

[Ross Dolan]

YOu seem a bit butt-hurt.

He...and the other MAGA morons...ALL seem very butt-hurt. It is getting more and more difficult for them to sell that bullshit about Trump being effective. He is a disaster...for our Republic and for the world. Even they can see it...and they are raging because of that.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

So stuff done by the Congress in 1977 made mortgages collapse 30 years later?

Yes. Things like that take time to build to a head.

Savings & Loans did fine in the 1970's. Reagan deregulated them in the 1980's, and a few years later there was the S&L Crisis. See how that works?

Not every one of these things takes the same time to occur. See how that works?

Obama left office with inflation too low, so if he had a rising CPI, that would have been good.

Obama left office with high gas prices, a shitty CPI, and a general domestic malaise in progress.

 

[Walt]

Obama left office with high gas prices, a shitty CPI, and a general domestic malaise in progress.

Gasoline prices were $2.39 when Obama left office. CPI was 1.4%, which is lower than we would like. If it were rising up to 2%, that would have been a very good thing. GDP growth was 1.9%, which is not great, but OK.

So out of three claims, you were got less than one right.