Real Clear Politics quietly changes Biden to below 270

Damocles said:
Yup. I believe that no results should be reported to the media until after the last poll closes in Hawai'i and then only results, no "calling" the states, etc. Just report when the counts are done what the result was, what was certified.

I have said this for decades and decades. I think the media causes many of our issues during elections, and they do it because contention creates ratings. It is irresponsible, it isn't reporting, again... I call it "advocating" for contention. With "friends" like the media, we don't need "enemies" or interference.
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They don't report any election results until the polls close in the state. How could they possibly effect the results?
 
Darth Omar said:
Since there’s nothing to worry about, why doesn’t Joe get behind it? It would be great politics because then he could say he wanted to be sure it was a fair election and it would dovetail perfectly with his call for unity.
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Joe has not said recounts should not take place. On the contrary, he has said have at it, it's the presidents right. He is smart enough to know what the result is going to be even if you are too fucking stupid to see it.
 
BartenderElite said:
He can't support Trump's rhetoric.

Biden was the one on election eve calling for calm and a full count of all the votes. Trump wanted the states called for him with 70% of the vote counted.

Trump is now saying - as he always has - that there is definitive massive fraud and widespread illegality. He's not calmly calling for a recount & standard investigation into irregularities.

"Why doesn't Joe get behind it?" Please.
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Joe is NOT against any of these recounts. Where did you idiots get that idea?
 
Port Tack said:
Joe has not said recounts should not take place. On the contrary, he has said have at it, it's the presidents right. He is smart enough to know what the result is going to be even if you are too fucking stupid to see it.
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Correct, he says none of it stops him and his team.
 
Port Tack said:
Plenty of states have used mail in ballots and I would not be surprised if they all use them next time around. And that FL debacle was over 537 votes, not 44,000. Trump is simply making an ass out of himself with his recounts, nothing is going to change. But that is fine, it's his right, I look forward to watching that asshole lose again.:)
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Trump is an authoritarian POS who is in cahoots with a transnational crime syndicate. Once an autocrat criminal infiltrates government it is difficult to remove them...like shit mixed with crazy glue stuck to your shoe. This is not a test...this is the real deal and we must get them the fuck out!
 
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Damocles said:
Probably. I wouldn't know the wording, but probably. If not then certainly 2012. I especially was vocal about it after 2000 election when one half of Florida was still voting when the state was called and then contested massively.

Calling an election is not reporting.
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No it wasn't called by any media outlet while voting was taking place. The media had no numbers until polls had closed. They may have projected a winner when half of the votes were counted but not while people were still voting in the state.

NBC had been first to declare a winner in Florida on Tuesday, saying Al Gore won at 7:50 p.m EST. Polls closed in Florida at 7:00 p.m.

All votes had been cast before any call was made so it's impossible for a network to affect the election in that state.
 
floridafan said:
There are no illegal votes

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/re...r-fraud-pennsylvania-disowns-his-accusations/
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* At least four MINORS voted in Nevada. It is ILLEGAL to vote when you are under 18yrs old.

* Numerous DEAD people voted in [insert any State here]. It is ILLEGAL to vote as someone else.

* Numerous otherwise legal voters cast ballots in multiple States. It is ILLEGAL to vote multiple times.

* Any absentee ballots wherein the Wisconsin Elections Commission advised municipal clerks to fill in missing witness addresses, and then subsequently count them in the vote tally, are ILLEGAL votes. [per WI State Statute]

* Any votes that were counted in [insert "swing State" here], where GOP poll watchers were physically barred from doing their legal duties of ballot verification/oversight, are now compromised votes (since they can no longer be certified by both major parties as legally cast).

* Any ballots that were "found" (created) after polls closed on election day are illegal votes.


Need any more examples of illegal votes, or will that suffice?
 
gfm7175 said:
* At least four MINORS voted in Nevada. It is ILLEGAL to vote when you are under 18yrs old.

* Numerous DEAD people voted in [insert any State here]. It is ILLEGAL to vote as someone else.

* Numerous otherwise legal voters cast ballots in multiple States. It is ILLEGAL to vote multiple times.

* Any absentee ballots wherein the Wisconsin Elections Commission advised municipal clerks to fill in missing witness addresses, and then subsequently count them in the vote tally, are ILLEGAL votes. [per WI State Statute]

* Any votes that were counted in [insert "swing State" here], where GOP poll watchers were physically barred from doing their legal duties of ballot verification/oversight, are now compromised votes (since they can no longer be certified by both major parties as legally cast).

* Any ballots that were "found" (created) after polls closed on election day are illegal votes.


Need any more examples of illegal votes, or will that suffice?
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4 votes in NV?
 
gfm7175 said:
* At least four MINORS voted in Nevada. It is ILLEGAL to vote when you are under 18yrs old.

* Numerous DEAD people voted in [insert any State here]. It is ILLEGAL to vote as someone else.

* Numerous otherwise legal voters cast ballots in multiple States. It is ILLEGAL to vote multiple times.

* Any absentee ballots wherein the Wisconsin Elections Commission advised municipal clerks to fill in missing witness addresses, and then subsequently count them in the vote tally, are ILLEGAL votes. [per WI State Statute]

* Any votes that were counted in [insert "swing State" here], where GOP poll watchers were physically barred from doing their legal duties of ballot verification/oversight, are now compromised votes (since they can no longer be certified by both major parties as legally cast).

* Any ballots that were "found" (created) after polls closed on election day are illegal votes.


Need any more examples of illegal votes, or will that suffice?
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PROOF. PROOF PROOF- you have none.
 
Port Tack said:
The media has always called the election.
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Nope. The media has never called ANY election... They can only project a winner. Personally, I project that Donald Trump has won the 2020 election, due to my belief that the pending litigation, re-canvasses, recounts, etc. will go in his favor in enough States, and that those Republican controlled State Legislatures will be convinced that targeted voter fraud occurred within the large metro areas of their respective States...

Rather, it is the State Legislatures who choose the electors, and it is the electors themselves who choose the President.

Port Tack said:
Of course it's not official until all votes are certified but they all want to be the first to call it. How many times has virtually every news source called the election one way or the other and been wrong? Like never or maybe once when the race was razor close. This one isn't close and Biden is clearly the winner.
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I can think of two times off the top of my head...

The media projected Gore to be the winner of the 2000 Election, and they projected Dewey to be the winner of the 1948 Election... Of course, Bush and Truman were the actual winners of those elections.
 
Port Tack said:
They all bitched and complained when FOX called Arizona but there is only one thing that matters, were they right? A major network puts their reputation on the line when making a call. None of them called the election in any state or the country wrong this time, it was easy.
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Yet they can't manage to project a winner in House races where Republicans are widely leading with 100% of precincts reporting?
 
floridafan said:
Until now, I didn't know that RCP decided elections. Thanks for letting us know.
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Until now, I didn't know the MEDIA decided them.

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