What is the practical difference, Hormuz is blocked either way.

[Teflon Don]

What is the practical difference if the US is blocading Hormuz or Iran is?

Its blocked either way, right? We want it open.

You honestly don't see a difference with WHO is blocking it? With the US blocking it, it chokes of Iran from imports and exports. No more sending oil to China. China not gonna be happy and will likely put pressure on Iran.

Are you that limited of a thinker? That binary?

Let me put it in terms that you can understand. Let's say the prostitute you go to every week says that you can't have sex with her anymore. Or let's say your welfare check doesn't come in and you have to skip that week. Yes in effect you aren't getting laid that week, but who says no does matter. Who controls the narrative matters greatly.

 

[Jarod]

You honestly don't see a difference with WHO is blocking it? With the US blocking it, it chokes of Iran from imports and exports. No more sending oil to China. China not gonna be happy and will likely put pressure on Iran.

Are you that limited of a thinker? That binary?

Let me put it in terms that you can understand. Let's say the prostitute you go to every week says that you can't have sex with her anymore. Or let's say your welfare check doesn't come in and you have to skip that week. Yes in effect you aren't getting laid that week, but who says no does matter. Who controls the narrative matters greatly.

IS that not the case no matter who is blocking it?>

 

[Jarod]

You honestly don't see a difference with WHO is blocking it? With the US blocking it, it chokes of Iran from imports and exports. No more sending oil to China. China not gonna be happy and will likely put pressure on Iran.

Are you that limited of a thinker? That binary?

Let me put it in terms that you can understand. Let's say the prostitute you go to every week says that you can't have sex with her anymore. Or let's say your welfare check doesn't come in and you have to skip that week. Yes in effect you aren't getting laid that week, but who says no does matter. Who controls the narrative matters greatly.

The practical effect is the same, correct? No sex?

 

[Yakuda]

YOu have no answer, I understand, the undisclosed element.

You are this stupid aren't you? Ok I'll dumb it down for you. Who got through when Iran was in control?

 

[QP!]

Trump could not stand that Iran was flexing how much 'hand' they had while Trump had none, and they left him no move other than to join them on closing it too so he can at least say 'i can also do what iran is doing' while Trump is begging them to open it even at this time.

 

[FastLane]

I have seen those, they were at the start of the war, have you seen any reciently?

Almost daily. If you notice very few Iranian regular military have been hit because they are trying to flip them.

NOt even our tankers are going in or out.

When the Iranians capitulate they will move again.

The practical effect is the same, correct? No sex?

 

[archives]

Because I watch Iranians who tell me what is happening inside of Iran.

So what you have is anecdotal accounts of individuals who left Iran, not quite a barometer of what is occurring inside Iran

There is not going to be an armed insurrection, there’s no WWII style underground thriving in Iran, most Iranians at this point are just trying to stay alive dodging bombs

Even Trump gave up on that one

 

[FastLane]

So what you have is anecdotal accounts of individuals who left Iran, not quite a barometer of what is occurring inside Iran

There is not going to be an armed insurrection, there’s no WWII style underground thriving in Iran, most Iranians at this point are just trying to stay alive dodging bombs

Even Trump gave up on that one

Nope I have seen several videos of people INSIDE of Iran that are very happy that the US is targeting the pro Islamic regime. I have seen videos of guns being smuggled to Iranians. I have seen POV videos of Iranians mowing down Basji at checkpoints. I have seen videos of Iranians burning IRGC buildings in Iran.

 

[archives]

Nope I have seen several videos of people INSIDE of Iran that are very happy that the US is targeting the pro Islamic regime. I have seen videos of guns being smuggled to Iranians. I have seen POV videos of Iranians mowing down Basji at checkpoints. I have seen videos of Iranians burning IRGC buildings in Iran.

Now did you see all this via sources recommended by your Iran exiles, or, in the right wing media/social network? Why don’t you share some of these videos or tell us how to access them?

And what are they waiting for, Trump told us he obliviated Iran’s military, navy, and Air Force, so what is holding them back? Seems now would be the time

 

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

The spokesperson for the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters has issued a stern warning regarding maritime security in the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman, asserting that regional stability must be inclusive to be maintained.

In a formal statement, the spokesperson outlined the following positions:

Sovereignty and Territorial Waters​

The spokesperson declared that the Iranian Armed Forces view the defense of the nation’s legal rights as a natural and statutory duty. He emphasized that exercising sovereignty within Iran’s territorial waters is an inherent right of the Iranian people and will be enforced with “decisiveness” by the armed forces.

Strait of Hormuz Restrictions​

Reaffirming long-standing policy, the statement clarified that vessels affiliated with “the enemy” are strictly prohibited from transiting the Strait of Hormuz. However, other vessels will continue to be allowed passage, provided they adhere to the regulations established by the Iranian Armed Forces.

Permanent Control Mechanism​

The spokesperson announced that due to persistent threats against Iran’s national security, the Islamic Republic will implement a “permanent mechanism” for the control of the Strait of Hormuz, even following the conclusion of current hostilities.

Condemnation of U.S. Actions​

The statement condemned U.S. restrictions on maritime traffic in international waters, labeling such actions as “illegal” and a “clear example of maritime piracy.”

The Principle of Reciprocity​

The headquarters issued a definitive ultimatum regarding regional infrastructure: “The security of ports in the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman is either for everyone or for no one.”

Iranian Armed Forces: Regional Port Security "For All or For None" - WANA

WANA (Apr 13) – The spokesperson for the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters has issued a stern warning regarding maritime security in the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman, asserting that regional stability must be inclusive to be maintained. In a formal statement, the spokesperson outlined...

wanaen.com

 

[zymurgy]

The spokesperson for the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters has issued a stern warning regarding maritime security in the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman, asserting that regional stability must be inclusive to be maintained.

In a formal statement, the spokesperson outlined the following positions:

Sovereignty and Territorial Waters​

The spokesperson declared that the Iranian Armed Forces view the defense of the nation’s legal rights as a natural and statutory duty. He emphasized that exercising sovereignty within Iran’s territorial waters is an inherent right of the Iranian people and will be enforced with “decisiveness” by the armed forces.

Strait of Hormuz Restrictions​

Reaffirming long-standing policy, the statement clarified that vessels affiliated with “the enemy” are strictly prohibited from transiting the Strait of Hormuz. However, other vessels will continue to be allowed passage, provided they adhere to the regulations established by the Iranian Armed Forces.

Permanent Control Mechanism​

The spokesperson announced that due to persistent threats against Iran’s national security, the Islamic Republic will implement a “permanent mechanism” for the control of the Strait of Hormuz, even following the conclusion of current hostilities.

Condemnation of U.S. Actions​

The statement condemned U.S. restrictions on maritime traffic in international waters, labeling such actions as “illegal” and a “clear example of maritime piracy.”

The Principle of Reciprocity​

The headquarters issued a definitive ultimatum regarding regional infrastructure: “The security of ports in the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman is either for everyone or for no one.”

Iranian Armed Forces: Regional Port Security "For All or For None" - WANA

WANA (Apr 13) – The spokesperson for the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters has issued a stern warning regarding maritime security in the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman, asserting that regional stability must be inclusive to be maintained. In a formal statement, the spokesperson outlined...

wanaen.com

the Iranian People don't support the Iranian Leaders


which is why they can't get online - and your phony ass hasn't been in Iran

 

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

the Iranian People don't support the Iranian Leaders

Some may not. If they behave in a criminal fashion, they are subject to prosecution, just as in America.

If enough Iranians were to agree with your assessment, the government would fall, as it did in 1979.

That hasn't happened, so I must surmise that your analysis seems somewhat flawed.

which is why they can't get online - and your phony ass hasn't been in Iran

I clearly have no issues "getting online".

 

[zymurgy]

Some may not. If they behave in a criminal fashion, they are subject to prosecution, just as in America.

If enough Iranians were to agree with your assessment, the government would fall, as it did in 1979.

That hasn't happened, so I must surmise that your analysis seems somewhat flawed.



I clearly have no issues "getting online".

you are not in Iran. we know how the internet works, and sites like cloudflare can see that Iran is blocking it

so keep lying, it merely exposes you

 

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

you are not in Iran. we know how the internet works, and sites like cloudflare can see that Iran is blocking it

so keep lying, it merely exposes you

You have no possible means of determining my whereabouts.

 

[zymurgy]

Home - NetBlocks

netblocks.org

we are now 45 days into Iran's total blackout

and we have a poser (poster) here claiming he is posting from Iran

what a shit stain lying fuckwad

and too dumb to even know how easy it is for his lies to be exposed

derp derp derpity derp

 

[zymurgy]

You have no possible means of determining my whereabouts.

you are not in Iran moron

Home - NetBlocks

netblocks.org

 

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

you are not in Iran moron

Home - NetBlocks

netblocks.org

As I said, you have no possible means of determining my whereabouts.

 

[zymurgy]

As I said, you have no possible means of determining my whereabouts.

I can't prove where you are, but I sure as fuck just proved where you aren't.

I know you are lying about being in Iran dipshit, and I proved it


time to fine a new username - I exposed this one as being completely dishonest

 

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

I know you are lying about being in Iran dipshit


time to fine a new username - I exposed this one as being completely dishonest

You know nothing about my whereabouts, and I can easily prove it.

Post my location at this moment if you can.

If you can't, ipso facto.

 

[zymurgy]

You know nothing about my whereabouts, and I can easily prove it.

Post my location at this moment if you can.

If you can't, ipso facto.

derp derp

I can't prove where you are, but I sure as fuck just proved where you aren't.

again - you are not in Iran posting online. we know you are lying. How the open internet works is not a mystery - Iran isn't open. what ever reputation you thought you had here just vanished in a blink of an eye