What is the practical difference, Hormuz is blocked either way.

Taichiliberal said:
Pay attention:

1. Iran never posed any type of military threat to America.
2. Prior to attacking Iran at the behest of Israel, the Strait of Hormuz functioned for all global transport without problems.
3. The current administration did not properly plan this attack. As it was common sense that Iran would control the Strait.
4. Iran merely enacted a toll for safe transport of countries not associated with Iran or Israel.
5. Trump's attack screwed up vital economic trafficking that affects commerce on various ... we are only feeling the 1st wave. He caused an international problem that resulted in transit blickages. now he stupidly thinks a blockade will work.
7. To date, no Israeli soldier has died in this debacle.
8. Iran has not had nuke weapon capability for over 25 years. Obama had inspectors in Iran ... Trump threw that away. Netanyahu and Trump bragged afew months ago that Iran's nuke manufacturing was destroyed, so the current mantras to justify this war are lies.
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Too much reality for the average American to absorb, I fear.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The US is only interested in ships that are paying the ransom to Iran and in collusion with Iran to get passage through the strait. Observation of ships on maritime tracking sites seems to indicate that only Chinese vessels are doing this, and likely aren't having to pay the ransom.

Iran has indicated that they will let ships from countries allied or friendly to them pass going on the Iranian side of the strait in their waters. All others must pay the ransom or risk potential attack.

It is not so much blocked as it is threatened by Iran. The potential risk is Iran will attack a ship transiting without their explicit approval.
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No or very few ships getting through at all.
 
tsuke11 said:
Iran is allied to China which makes them a threat enough. If for some reason they did attack Taiwan Iran would have done the same things they do now. We would have had to take them out sooner or later. Better now than when China is ready.

If you agree with Iran that this is one entire battlefield with multiple fronts that need to have a ceasefire togehter then the Israelis have lost ground forces in Lebanon vs Hezbollah. I do agree that the Israeli airforce has performed better than the US airforce. It needs to be studied why they have taken 0 casualties against the same targets. I dont think the US is capable of hitting 170 targets within a 10 minute band either.

I agree with you that a simple blockade wouldnt work. It needs to come with conjunction of attacks in infrastructure as well.

SInce you bring up number 8 I assume you were not politically active in 2015. I urge you to look at the response of Republicans to JCPOA at that point and a speech made by Rubio as well as the reason the treaty never made it to the senate for ratification. The GOP has always stated that they had a problem with nuclear AND missiles AND proxies.
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1. Doing business with someone does not make them a military ally, as we do business with Arab, Muslim and authoritarian countries. Your insane "what if" scenario smacks of military paranoia and imperialism. Better you do some homework on our history with Iran to truly grasp what's going on.
2. Hezbollah didn't exist until Israel first attacked Lebanon. Look it up. Then note; Israel lies about nuke capability in Iran and gets America to do its dirty work, then do air strikes on unrelated countries. Nothing to "study", as it's clear who's bitch America is as Netanyahu and company live out their zionist fantasy.
3. So you're advocating to start WW3? For Israel? Hell, if you or your family and friends want that, sign up. But don't condemn others to fulfill a zionist/American imperislist wet dream.
4. Spare me the regurgitation of neocon/teabagger justification and condescending guff. Bottom line; no one said the deal was perfect, but it was a hell of a lot better than what the GOP offered ... which was NOTHING but the SOS of total capitulation from the Iranians, which lead us to the current fiasco. Now Dump and company are essentially trying to push a deal similar to the one Obama had ... which took 2 years to get. Netanyahu doesn't want that. And here we are.
 
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:
Too much reality for the average American to absorb, I fear.
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Mind you. I have no love or respect for the theocratic thuggery of the current Iranian regime. But that does NOT justify America's current actions at the behest if Israel or our attempts to control yhe world economy based on the dollar. If more Americans understood the history we have with Iran, there would be far less support for this debacle.
 
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