U.S. and China Will Likely Go to War In the Next 30 Years - James Fanell

Yep....... They've been saying it for years & yet their economy continues to expand @ a much higher rate than ours...

I think even Jim Chanos has given up on trying to short the CCP..........

Petraeus maybe 3 years ago said "Yes the Chinese are building a lot of pretty good stuff for their military, yes they have aspirations, but it will take them 30 years to learn how to use it, we dont need to worry for awhile (paraphrase)".

Nope....for instance we just pulled our bombers out of Guam and back to North Dakota because they became sitting ducks, incapable of surviving long enough to fight, because the Chinese are getting very good very fast.

Do you remember this one?: "We dont need to worry about the Chinese, they are not capable of innovation".

Morons.
 
Petraeus maybe 3 years ago said "Yes the Chinese are building a lot of pretty good stuff for their military, yes they have aspirations, but it will take them 30 years to learn how to use it, we dont need to worry for awhile (paraphrase)".

Nope....for instance we just pulled our bombers out of Guam and back to North Dakota because they became sitting ducks, incapable of surviving long enough to fight, because the Chinese are getting very good very fast.

Do you remember this one?: "We dont need to worry about the Chinese, they are not capable of innovation".

Morons.

One thing we or anyone should do is underestimate our rivals........like When a Chinese Submarine Appeared In The Middle Of A Carrier Battle Group
 
One thing we or anyone should do is underestimate our rivals........like When a Chinese Submarine Appeared In The Middle Of A Carrier Battle Group

Far too many of our elites dont seem to have the foggiest clue that the Chinese are coming for us....they seem to live in a Barney the Dino fantasy world where in the future we are all around the globe going to be hugging and caring for each other.

The Chinese never had any such ideas, which even the dimmest should have figured out by now....those that have not are willfully ignorant.....they have to be....there is no other way this could happen.
 
Yep....... I find it very troubling that IMHO one of the biggest threats & yet biden makes no mention of China on his list of plans on his web site.
 
It aint just China. It's China and Russia together, Chinese money and Russian tech savvy.
They are now able to field a unified command as well.

Our Russiaphobia (sanctions etc.) drove them together- undoing 40 years of US policy
( Nixon's China card/triangulation)
 
It aint just China. It's China and Russia together, Chinese money and Russian tech savvy.
They are now able to field a unified command as well.

Our Russiaphobia (sanctions etc.) drove them together- undoing 40 years of US policy
( Nixon's China card/triangulation)

LOL, yea it's all the russian phobia, nothing of the china phobia driving them towards russia........:rolleyes:
 
LOL, yea it's all the russian phobia, nothing of the china phobia driving them towards russia.....:
it's mutual.
But China has the SCO, and the economy to draw Russia into a sino-Russian partnership.

If we hadn't done sanctions and worked to bring Russia into the western economy (instead) -
China would not have so much sway over Russia economic needs.

Obama got that -the Russian reset as well

Instead our policies drove them into an uneasy economic/military partnership
 
It's very late in the game, but Russia has the worst active cases of COVID. It's racing thru their population.
They can't be happy with China -it's an opportunity to pry them apart
 
It's very late in the game, but Russia has the worst active cases of COVID. It's racing thru their population.
They can't be happy with China -it's an opportunity to pry them apart

That ship has sailed......Putin understands fully how weak America is now......He will not leave China now.....Putin picks winners.
 
That ship has sailed......Putin understands fully how weak America is now......He will not leave China now.....Putin picks winners.
unsupported puffery.
It's not just Putin and the USA -it's Putin and Europe. I'm not saying it would happen -we have to stop funding Ukraine war in Donbass.
And Congress would scream Russiaphobia if we did -but Trump and Putin can at least stop the open hostilites
which would get NATO's attention

we need to end Cold War 2.0
 
He makes some very good & insightful points and arguments.. (per-Pandemic)



Not sure if I agree with him on that; full blown military wars are obsolete as the human race would be in danger of becoming if we were to ever engage in a full blown war. I think it's a lose-lose scenario and as such a peaceful solution could be worked out if all three sides work together.
 
it's mutual.
But China has the SCO, and the economy to draw Russia into a sino-Russian partnership.

If we hadn't done sanctions and worked to bring Russia into the western economy (instead) -
China would not have so much sway over Russia economic needs.

Obama got that -the Russian reset as well

Instead our policies drove them into an uneasy economic/military partnership

Well they didn't........... It was prob to late by the time the drunk left...

After that:

What small chance there was was squandered by putin getting caught fucking w/ our elections, which some ppl don't seem to mind...

You bet your ass though they would have had putin favored hillary instead of trump though....:nodyes:
 
It's very late in the game, but Russia has the worst active cases of COVID. It's racing thru their population.
They can't be happy with China -it's an opportunity to pry them apart

& that is done how??

I don't see the same relationship that you seem to...... Lovers of convenience~that happened to be married in the past but that didn't work out....

& in the lives before that one got the boot, the other got Siberia, & Mongolia, & the coast, & the islands off the coast etc etc etc.......
 
Not sure if I agree with him on that; full blown military wars are obsolete as the human race would be in danger of becoming if we were to ever engage in a full blown war. I think it's a lose-lose scenario and as such a peaceful solution could be worked out if all three sides work together.

Well I don't necessarily agree w/ everything he lays out either, but I do believe it is a realistic possibility...... In fact the odds are in favor of it happening...

Have you ever heard or read about the Thucydides Trap??

Here is an interesting article in the Atlantic


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unsupported puffery.
It's not just Putin and the USA -it's Putin and Europe. I'm not saying it would happen -we have to stop funding Ukraine war in Donbass.
And Congress would scream Russiaphobia if we did -but Trump and Putin can at least stop the open hostilites
which would get NATO's attention

we need to end Cold War 2.0

Putin works for China, our morons in the American Elite drove him to it...Iran too....its time to wise up now...grab some smelling salts, sometimes they help I am told.
 
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