So, how do you think the school walkout helped? No ban list, accept for Annie

"So you want to repeal the 2nd. Amendment?" R6 #240

"No right is absolute. Conversely, no government authority is absolute." lawyer, law Professor and former ACLU head Nadine Strossen

There are ALREADY restrictions on 2A. U.S. citizens are NOT allowed to keep & bear arms:
- in public schools
- in courts of law
- on commercial airliners
- at the post office
- etc.
To pretend that our "right to keep & bear arms" has not ALREADY been infringed is simple unbridled ignorance.
 
PS
"Not repel it. Just amended it
Is that really too much to ask?" KD #241
According to my sources, our Bill of Rights has never been amended.

So what you're proposing, after centuries of U.S. history, that at long last we break that record, and amend our Bill of Rights, to REDUCE citizen's rights? To give government differentially even MORE power over U.S.?
 

"No right is absolute. Conversely, no government authority is absolute." lawyer, law Professor and former ACLU head Nadine Strossen

There are ALREADY restrictions on 2A. U.S. citizens are NOT allowed to keep & bear arms:
- in public schools
- in courts of law
- on commercial airliners
- at the post office
- etc.
To pretend that our "right to keep & bear arms" has not ALREADY been infringed is simple unbridled ignorance.

No shit. And all those infringements have not stopped the criminal use of firearms, have they? Do you think more will?
 
PS

According to my sources, our Bill of Rights has never been amended.

So what you're proposing, after centuries of U.S. history, that at long last we break that record, and amend our Bill of Rights, to REDUCE citizen's rights? To give government differentially even MORE power over U.S.?
Which is even more reason to amend them. If that's true, that the bill of rights we're never amended then that means we've been living our lives according to a document that's outdated and completely misrepresents our current society.

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No shit. And all those infringements have not stopped the criminal use of firearms, have they? Do you think more will?
Well the current way obviously isn't working. People have access to assult rifles and theres been nothing but mass murder. So let's see how a ban shapes out.

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Well the current way obviously isn't working. People have access to assult rifles and theres been nothing but mass murder. So let's see how a ban shapes out.

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Semi automatics have been around for over a century. Why has this just recently become a problem? Oh, and people don't have access to "assault rifles," they can only be obtained with strict and proper permits.
 
Semi automatics have been around for over a century. Why has this just recently become a problem? Oh, and people don't have access to "assault rifles," they can only be obtained with strict and proper permits.
Why has it become a problem? Are you not keeping up with the news?

Oh and those "permits" don't mean anything if a person on the FBI list can purchase one and shoot up a club.


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Why has it become a problem? Are you not keeping up with the news?

Oh and those "permits" don't mean anything if a person on the FBI list can purchase one and shoot up a club.


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You are pretty thick. I'll ask in a more simpler manner.
Why have these school shootings just recently become a problem when semi automatic weapons have been around for over a century?
Oh, and those permits (for "actual" assault rifles) are incredibly hard to obtain, not to mention expensive.
 
You are pretty thick. I'll ask in a more simpler manner.
Why have these school shootings just recently become a problem when semi automatic weapons have been around for over a century?
Oh, and those permits (for "actual" assault rifles) are incredibly hard to obtain, not to mention expensive.
I see you're really simple because you just answered your own question.

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I see you're really simple because you just answered your own question.

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Were schools being shot up in the 1900s?

Did people have the same rights back then as we do now?

Were these weapons as powerful then as they are now?

Stay woke!

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Were schools being shot up in the 1900s?

Did people have the same rights back then as we do now?

Were these weapons as powerful then as they are now?

Stay woke!

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No.

Yes. More.

Yes.

I am awake, I'm at work.
 
" And all those infringements have not stopped the criminal use of firearms, have they? Do you think more will? " R6 #245
Are you merely acting naïve, or is this the real thing?

You present as a certitude the outcome of an uncontrolled experiment.
How can you know for certain that the current laws restricting 2A haven't saved a dozen lives, or more?
You present that proof, and I'll validate your position.
UNTIL you prove that the current restrictions have been of zero benefit, you're merely expressing what most experts will tell you is an ignorant opinion.
"If that's true" KD #246
"IF"?!
Here's a news flash for you: The British are coming! The British are coming!
"that the bill of rights we're never amended then that means we've been living our lives according to a document that's outdated and completely misrepresents our current society." KD #246
News flash #2:

You being acquainted with a fundamental reality does not transform reality.
It merely nudges you one small increment closer to that reality.
Do not rest. You obviously have a long, long way to go!
 
Are you merely acting naïve, or is this the real thing?

You present as a certitude the outcome of an uncontrolled experiment.
How can you know for certain that the current laws restricting 2A haven't saved a dozen lives, or more?
You present that proof, and I'll validate your position.
UNTIL you prove that the current restrictions have been of zero benefit, you're merely expressing what most experts will tell you is an ignorant opinion.

"IF"?!
Here's a news flash for you: The British are coming! The British are coming!

News flash #2:

You being acquainted with a fundamental reality does not transform reality.
It merely nudges you one small increment closer to that reality.
Do not rest. You obviously have a long, long way to go!
Of course it does. How do you think our reality has come this far? People had an image of what the world could be and make active changes to make it true.

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"Of course it does." KD #256
"Of course" what does what?
"How do you think our reality has come this far?" KD
Entirely side-stepping your "our reality" formulation:

"Tell me what you think of time, and I will tell you what I think of you." St. Thomas Aquinas

"People had an image of what the world could be and make active changes to make it true."
That's true of both Mother Theresa, and Adolf Hitler alike.

AND !!

It's true of the students that have started this movement which has become a national campaign.

And so your obvious truism is supposed to communicate what?
 
Not repel it. Just amended it
Is that really too much to ask?

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Can we amend the 15th also; seeing as how liberals don't think 18 year olds are mature or responsible enough to buy a rifle, wouldn't that mean that they also aren't mature or responsible enough to vote?
 
Well the current way obviously isn't working. People have access to assult rifles and theres been nothing but mass murder. So let's see how a ban shapes out.

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Nothing but???

What exactly is the percentage of gun owners, who have participated in these "mass murders"??
 
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