Politicizing Sports continues: Gwen Berry turns her back on the US flag and anthem

Should politics be banned from the sports field?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 61.5%
  • No

    Votes: 5 38.5%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    13
Oh really?

When did she say that?

This sounds like consciousness of guilt to me.

No one on the left has ever said every white person is a fucking racist.

I think this is a really good way to approach CRT (from Reddit):

I think LV was referring to Gwen Berry not evince.

That (the one in red) was the statement I was replying to. evince says everyone on the right is racist, white or otherwise.
 
Oh, and she says half the white men are white supremacists and the other half are Russian spies.

Read the Shit Desh Says thread. Ask legion, he'll bump it for you.

Thanks, but I'm not that attached.
 
Oh really?

When did she say that?

This sounds like consciousness of guilt to me.

No one on the left has ever said every white person is a fucking racist.

I think this is a really good way to approach CRT (from Reddit):
I think I will use that analogy with my inlaws.
 
What she said is quoted below.

OK, so in what you quoted, you didn't actually prove anything you claimed she said.

How do you get this:

Disagreed. She's claiming the US is racist and, by current far left theory, every "white" person is a fucking racist asshole who deserves punishment.

From this:

“I feel like it was a setup, and they did it on purpose,” Berry said of the anthem being played. “I was pissed, to be honest. “They had enough opportunities to play the national anthem before we got up there,”

Nothing you said that she said turned out to be what she actually said.

And then, in typical shitty Dutch fashion, you moved the goalposts here:

Regardless, she's politicizing a sports ceremony.

Regardless? LMAO! So you lied.

You completely made shit up.

You made a lying point that you couldn't back up.

You do that a lot here.
 
You obviously haven't read evince's posts. She calls everyone a racist, and you too.

I can't control what other people say and believe, I can only control my beliefs and my feelings.

You don't seem like you have control over your own feelings if CRT is able to make you feel guilty merely by existing as an academic theory.
 
I can't control what other people say and believe, I can only control my beliefs and my feelings.

You don't seem like you have control over your own feelings if CRT is able to make you feel guilty merely by existing as an academic theory.

Fly away, gnat.
 
That (the one in red) was the statement I was replying to. evince says everyone on the right is racist, white or otherwise.

OK, so that's not the same thing as this, and you moved the fucking goalposts again:

Disagreed. She's claiming the US is racist and, by current far left theory, every "white" person is a fucking racist asshole who deserves punishment.

So you and Dutch have the same bad habit...you take something to a hyperbolic extreme to frame your own position as the moderate, centrist one because the reality is that your incoherent position is the racist, shitty one.
 
OK, so in what you quoted, you didn't actually prove anything you claimed she said.

How do you get this:



From this:



Nothing you said that she said turned out to be what she actually said.

And then, in typical shitty Dutch fashion, you moved the goalposts here:



Regardless? LMAO! So you lied.

You completely made shit up.

You made a lying point that you couldn't back up.

You do that a lot here.

Gwen has been punished for her racist antics before. This wasn't the first time. Just because she didn't say "Fuck all you cracker racists" at that time doesn't mean she hasn't. Read through her Twitter feed. She's claims to be an Activist Athlete. Great IF off the field. Disruptive and self-aggrandizing if it's on the field.

As for goal posts, please read the OP.

https://twitter.com/MzBerryThrows

 
Oh, and she says half the white men are white supremacists and the other half are Russian spies.

Wait, because you said earlier that they said all white people were racist.

So now you just keep changing what you say to try and make a square peg fit into a round hole.

The only racist person I see here is you.
 
Fly away, gnat.

Get some freaking self-control.

As it stands today, you have no control over your own feelings.

If some obscure academic theory is making you feel guilty, then go to fucking therapy to figure out why.
 
Gwen has been punished for her racist antics before.

First of all, you completely lied about what she said.

So again, how do you get this:

She's claiming the US is racist and, by current far left theory, every "white" person is a fucking racist asshole who deserves punishment.

From this:

“Here I am— a Black, broke woman— saying that what they are doing to other Black people is wrong,

Show your work.
 
Just because she didn't say "Fuck all you cracker racists" at that time doesn't mean she hasn't.

It actually does.

So what you're doing is hyperbolically and deliberately misinterpreting what she's saying in order to frame your own unreasonable position as the reasonable one.

So how do you get this:

Disagreed. She's claiming the US is racist and, by current far left theory, every "white" person is a fucking racist asshole who deserves punishment.

From this:

t’s time for Real Change. Athletes must continue to bring awareness to the systemic oppression Blacks have endured for centuries. We should never be silenced and punished for speaking out. Thank you @nytopinion for helping me create this powerful piece. ✊��✊��

Show your work.
 
Read through her Twitter feed. She's claims to be an Activist Athlete. Great IF off the field. Disruptive and self-aggrandizing if it's on the field.

So now you're stretching the bounds of reason and reality to hyperbolically attack someone who is doing nothing other than raising awareness.

You lied about everything she said.

Nothing you've said about her is confirmed in any of the links you shared.

In fact, everything you've shared proves you're the one seeking to disrupt and cause problems and divide people based on their race.

So you're accusing her of doing the thing you've been doing on this thread and others.
 
What's the lie? That she's not arguing all whites are racist per CRT?

Yes, that's one of the lies you told that you couldn't show the work for.

Here's the other lie you told:

Disagreed. She's claiming the US is racist and, by current far left theory, every "white" person is a fucking racist asshole who deserves punishment.

This punishment thing is really what's fucking you over on this thread.

You lost control of your own feelings, and now someone you've never met is able to get into your head and make you feel guilty or mad or whatever about nothing.

You are so desperate to try and frame Berry as a troublemaker because you don't want to come to terms with the fact that what she's saying is accurate and it's making you feel like shit.

Well Dutch, neither Berry nor me are capable of making you feel things...you are only capable of that.

So if you feel that by discussing race in America, Berry is making you feel bad about something, that's a you problem, not a "we" problem, a CRT problem, or anyone else's problem.

Maybe be less sensitive.
 
So now you're stretching the bounds of reason and reality to hyperbolically attack someone who is doing nothing other than raising awareness....

Bullshit. She's putting on a show, not raising awareness. The entire point of this thread was to get politics out of sports. Period. No fucking Nazis. No fucking Antisemites. No fucking racists of all flavors. No politics on the field. That's the entire point.

It's not a comment about race, CRT, Gwen herself or you. It's that if this isn't stopped, then we'll be seeing Nazi salutes and other "raising awareness" from all the athletes....unless you're such a racist that you think only African-American athletes can protest and no one else is allowed to do so.

Is that what you think, LV? That the po' black folk need to be allowed to protest but no one else can do so? Do you realize how fucking racist that attitude would be?
 
Bullshit. She's putting on a show, not raising awareness.

So now we're really getting to the meat of this...

It's not about race, or CRT, or really anything broad like that...

It's really about you getting upset that a Black woman is using her platform to express her beliefs and positions.

That's what this is really all about...you getting mad that a woman -a BLACK WOMAN, no less- is using her fame and platform to speak about issues that mean something and have an impact on her.

You act like she isn't entitled to that space, only you are.

So why do you want to silence Black women? Because it's not just Berry that you've done this to...you have a really shitty pattern of attacking Black women on JPP.
 
The entire point of this thread was to get politics out of sports.

Politics and sports are intrinsically linked.

I bet if you were alive in the 1940's, you'd have opposed Jackie Robinson playing in MLB because his presence in the league was entirely political.

You would have said "why are the Dodgers bringing politics into sports by signing Jackie Robinson, who was court-martialed?"

Don't try to deny it, we both know that's what you would have said.
 
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